guess flow numbers dont equal horsepower huh?

 

Hell yes! Were shooting for 450whp at 18psi. Then Ill drive it around for another 1k miles and then put some race gas in it and say 30+psi?!? Then we will be looking at the BIG numbers! hehe. AND FOR THE NON-BELIEVERS IN HAHN RACECRAFT----- HAHN RACECRAFT FTMFW!!!!!!! Thanks again Bill!

 

If they are making a kit specifically for the 2.2, I don't see why you would have to use a new tb....I mean with the limited tuning already for the 2.2, a bigger tb would be a nightmare....cel's galore....I had to retune my whole car when I did the "3.5 inch" tb swap on mine.

Anthony, i'm only thinking about it which is why i'm not really blabbing out to everyone that i'm going turbo. It's either this, a used srt4, or a used gto. I'll have my final decision in 3 months about. If I buy a skittle or goat, don't worry, i'm still gonna have the slowbalt as well and will be on this forum as much as I am now

 

+999999999999

 

lol i mean look at our 2.2s our TB is ontop of the mani, now rip all that crap out, then attach the hahn manifold, then lookey, the TB would have to hook to the right of the mani which is not the same place as where ours hooks... what now??? see my point i am confused as to what would need done as our 2.2 TB would be useless and it clearly states on hahns site that it was built for the 2.2 and 2.4 but can be used on the 2.0 as for the turbo or for replacing the supercharger.. in reality we would need a new TB.. i have to do my own tuning anyways as i am a 2.2 auto so no biggy there.. rather do it all at once with the port fueler kit..

and yes i do have tuning for the auto and hahn is a awesome company like someone on here said, they have answered all my questions without a hickup, wonderful company to sit back and talk with.. thats why there getting my money.. any company can make a kit, but sweet customer service to go along with it and experience goes a long way in my book

 

From the way it looks, it doesn't seem like this intake manifold is being made specifically for a 2.2 or 2.4....i could be wrong.....I thought you were talking about just a turbo kit and not a new intake manifold which is why I was confused...so i'd imagine you'd have to get either a lsj tb or an adapter plate made (which is really cheap) to make the 2.2 fit on the hahn intake manifold

 

well when i buy the stage 2 kit from hahn or whatever else may be available at that time, i can get a custom charge pipe from the intercooler to the new manifold with tb and be good.. cause i no the intercooler charge pipe is what hooks to our TB..

I no the manifold would fit fine, its just the TB which is the problem.. it wouldnt be hard at all to find a TB that fit, i am just wondering if he provides one for the 2.2 and if he doesnt maybe he has ones he builds that would cost extra, i dont mind paying extra for the better stuff my pet peeve is trying not to destory my el cheapo plastic manifold with more boost..

once everything is one running in lower boost, its forging time.. and the OP has the same head package i want basically. i wanted to hit 15psi and see where my car stands around then..

i love how the charge piping is painted or powerdercoated blue, matches very well.

 

Spend the money if you want. I guess you guys are smarter than the man that builds 1400hp Ecotec'c
give him a call 714 549 0159

 

::sigh:: nevermind, i guess you're smarter since you posted someones phone number on the internet. i guess you're smarter since you think a head that flows worse than a 1g dsm head will support 800 hp. i guess you're smarter since you have this notion that actual flow numbers for the stock sand cast lsj head CAN NOT SUPPORT over 420 to the tire.

number don't lie, people do.

 

Ouch. I felt that and I'm not even in the conversation.

 

I just want numbers from the super 20g kit...can't we all just get along?

 

DIRECT FROM THE NEW GM ECOTEC BOOK

The GM Performance Parts sportsman cylinder head part
number 88958619 is a modified production L61 head. This
head is cast from aluminum using a lost foam process; it
features CNC Street porting for port to port consistency.
(Fig. 12)
The spark plug holes have been modified to accept 3/49
reach spark plugs.
A complete competition valve job has been performed on
the cylinder head using a Serti Head Machine with a Serti
cutter # HP2022.
This head with production valves has been run to over 500
hp on gasoline with 25 lbs boost.

 

For all professional-level ECOTEC race applications, the
production sand-cast 2.0L LSJ or SAAB ECOTEC head is
modified by GM Racing. (Fig. 94) Note that it is possible to
use a race-ported production 2.2L L61 head at power
levels up to 900 hp, as long as the combustion chamber is
staked.

this is not a shot at you, it's a shot at the information you have.

 

25 psi from what? the M62? dear god that thing must have been hot enough to cook a cow on.

 

I didn't say I was smarter than anyone. I simply relayed the info I got from the man and put his # up if anyone wants to contact him. He told me not to wast money on porting the head. Also they were pretty thin in the exhaust ports to begin with and tend to crack when thinned out. It isn't worth it for a street car. But like I said before it's your money spend it how you will.

 

LOL nah definately not a m62...or supercharger for that matter....you should feel my supercharger after a pull....I have no cooling upgrades...woooooo weeee you can cook some steaks or prime rib....have a bbq on my supercharger That's a good idea for the next meet...have a bbq in my backyard on our heatons hmmmm

 

i understand that. i know how much it can take in terms of being ported, which really isn't that much. {YaY go gm!}

chevy, not the m62, a terbow

 

We will investigate the fitment of this manifold design to 2.2 and 2.4 models as demand dictates. We'd likely retain the stock throttle body, for it's amply sized.

The stock composite (plastic) manifold has proven capable at 20-ish PSI boost so far on our Solstice and Sky applications. Nonetheless, there are some good reasons to replace it outside of its plastic-ness:

• Our direct, short-runner design will also enhance high-RPM power.
• PortFueler is nice to add to 2.2 and 2.4 applicatons, giving more tuning options.
• As mentioned, our StreetRace manifold has much more 'underhood appeal'!

 

I really want to see that manifold mounted.

 

still no ET on the kits release?

 

sounds sweet.. do you think our 2.2 mani could handle up to 20psi? i dont know much about the other cars you were talking about..

 

not for long....they explode at about 22-23..i wouldnt push it that far with a composite mani

 

the max i want to push till i start forging way down the road is about 10psi at most..

 

So what ever happened to this thing? Did it just die?

 

nah man he decided he wanted to stay slow forever and put the supercharger back on.


HA! TAKE THAT SUPERCHARGER BOY!!!