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Old 04-20-2012, 02:04 PM
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HMM thats wierd everyone else is saying its like stock pretty much maybe you had a leak? i guess thats the reason my old zzp dp rasped bad
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No I didn't, had new gaskets and used sealant on the v-band. i think its partially from it being catless and partially from the header having thiner primary walls compared to the stock mani

i wish i could have gotten some fly bys before i changed it back to stock

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I will do my best to get all the vids I can.
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good to hear, so noone has any vids? XD
If I remember this weekend sometime Maybe I'll make one.
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^^ did u remember??

Originally Posted by RooTBeeR
No I didn't, had new gaskets and used sealant on the v-band. i think its partially from it being catless and partially from the header having thiner primary walls compared to the stock mani

i wish i could have gotten some fly bys before i changed it back to stock
ohhh it was catless. yea thats ur problem i thought it was catted.
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only vid i can find. said mods form description: 241 wheel HP, 220 wheel torque, through an LSD trans. Mods are ZZP 3" Catted down pipe, modded air box, 2.8 pulley, 60lb injectors, ZZP Stage 1 heat exchanger. Stock cat-back, stock intake tube. It was dynoed in 96 degree heat in 90% humidity by Jeff Creech at Carolina Auto Masters in Durham, NC. Had it been a cooler day, the numbers would be a good bit higher, but overall I am very pleased


i guess it does sound kinda like stock
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i did maybe hear a little rasp during the pull
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You are going to hear rasp no matter what you put on your car, unless you go back to complete stock. Its the price that is paid for modding your car. Even if you get a catted DP from ZZP, that cat is less restrictive then the stock cat. It's going to be a little louder and will probably create rasp. You were talking about going TVS, so I would probably just get used to your exhaust being a little louder, especially if you want to get the max potential out of your motor.
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Stock cat is a 3" high flow...i need a new cat for my LT. been thinking about just getting a stocker to throw in there if i can make it fit
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thanks ebristol! posting it on here for ease of access. i guess it sounds pretty good!

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Originally Posted by kdub1492
You are going to hear rasp no matter what you put on your car, unless you go back to complete stock. Its the price that is paid for modding your car. Even if you get a catted DP from ZZP, that cat is less restrictive then the stock cat. It's going to be a little louder and will probably create rasp. You were talking about going TVS, so I would probably just get used to your exhaust being a little louder, especially if you want to get the max potential out of your motor.
you don't always get rasp! plenty of setups have no rasp, hence i was making sure this one didnt! i know, performance>sound but as a daily driver, no rasp>performance
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On any set-up you will eventually get rasp. It may not be right away, but it will develop. I have a little rasp at high RPM's but other then that its just a drone sound. I DD mine too, but you eventually get used to it. And I'd rather have my car faster then the next, then care about some rasp at high RPM's. But then again I have a 01 WS6 so I get my muscle and good sound from that lmao
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Originally Posted by riceburner
thanks ebristol! posting it on here for ease of access. i guess it sounds pretty good!
That stock muffler has over 130k on it.

Its is a nice setup.

John Powell had a pretty good idea on how to improve it just a little more. Cut off the 2" inlet to the resonator and cut back the resonator until it is 2.5". Then weld in a new 2.5" flange.



I think it would make just enough of a difference to make it worth the effort.
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Originally Posted by ebristol
That stock muffler has over 130k on it.

Its is a nice setup.

John Powell had a pretty good idea on how to improve it just a little more. Cut off the 2" inlet to the resonator and cut back the resonator until it is 2.5". Then weld in a new 2.5" flange.

[IMG]http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q134/ericbristol/redline/exhaust/ZZP%20Cat-back/DSC00823.jpg[IMG]

I think it would make just enough of a difference to make it worth the effort.
this must be why my zost doesnt seem to have much restriction then...well i actually just replaced the whole res, but same idea



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Any gains from switching to the ZZP Catback?
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Originally Posted by kdub1492
You are going to hear rasp no matter what you put on your car, unless you go back to complete stock. Its the price that is paid for modding your car. Even if you get a catted DP from ZZP, that cat is less restrictive then the stock cat. It's going to be a little louder and will probably create rasp. You were talking about going TVS, so I would probably just get used to your exhaust being a little louder, especially if you want to get the max potential out of your motor.
I have zero rasp with my setup....

The Corsa resonator does a very nice job cancelling out rasp and drone.

Originally Posted by ebristol
That stock muffler has over 130k on it.

Its is a nice setup.

John Powell had a pretty good idea on how to improve it just a little more. Cut off the 2" inlet to the resonator and cut back the resonator until it is 2.5". Then weld in a new 2.5" flange.



I think it would make just enough of a difference to make it worth the effort.
This is the restricitve part in the stock exhaust that people tend to forget about....

To all the people who want to hack up the stock exhaust and add a hi flow muffler, and 2.5" over axle section, make sure you upgrade the resonator as well.

I measured the inlet at 2 1/16" when I removed my stock catback.
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Originally Posted by a_joyner
Any gains from switching to the ZZP Catback?
Max boost went from 22psi on the stock cat-back to 21psi on the ZZP 2.5". Boost is a measure of restriction. So yes the ZZP 2.5" is less restrictive which should provide gains.

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This is the restricitve part in the stock exhaust that people tend to forget about....

To all the people who want to hack up the stock exhaust and add a hi flow muffler, and 2.5" over axle section, make sure you upgrade the resonator as well.

I measured the inlet at 2 1/16" when I removed my stock catback.
Yeah that inlet is tiny! But it matches the outlet of the stock DP. So GM did it for a reason.
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Has anyone figured out a decent set-up to go with when cat-less?
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
I have zero rasp with my setup....

The Corsa resonator does a very nice job cancelling out rasp and drone.




This is the restricitve part in the stock exhaust that people tend to forget about....

To all the people who want to hack up the stock exhaust and add a hi flow muffler, and 2.5" over axle section, make sure you upgrade the resonator as well.

I measured the inlet at 2 1/16" when I removed my stock catback.
I am still tempted to try my "custom" corsa idea when I get a chance...

how long is the corsa res again?
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i never measured but i think mine was ~25 inches
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Originally Posted by riceburner
i never measured but i think mine was ~25 inches
just the body, or the body and flanges?
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Originally Posted by ebristol
Max boost went from 22psi on the stock cat-back to 21psi on the ZZP 2.5". Boost is a measure of restriction. So yes the ZZP 2.5" is less restrictive which should provide gains.



Yeah that inlet is tiny! But it matches the outlet of the stock DP. So GM did it for a reason.
Yep.

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I am still tempted to try my "custom" corsa idea when I get a chance...

how long is the corsa res again?
I wish u asked me sooner....

I had the car on the stands the other day installing my new downpipe.

I would have got u an exact measurement.

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i never measured but i think mine was ~25 inches
if u never measured how did u think it was 25"???

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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
Yep.



I wish u asked me sooner....

I had the car on the stands the other day installing my new downpipe.

I would have got u an exact measurement.



if u never measured how did u think it was 25"???
let me check my PM's actually i think i asked you before

...if its short enough i might be able to run 2 resonators and 2 mufflers my wallet might get a little upset but my ears will love me



yeah nevermind, all i have is the muffler part number

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