Im gonna need you to let me borrow that kit....

 

That is your interpretation. I think you have misinterpreted alot on this thread.
never ever compared this set to anything. I think we are aware were behind quite a few cars. we see there is potential in the motor due to GM's results. I believe were trying to find solutions as well. it is a car that is not old tried and true where you can think of a fool proof recipe to go fast. were working on problems - Heat. Turbo would be the obvious answer but some want to do it with a SC. So this thread gets going.

now you should have clearer head about what were excited about. were making progress to get to our 1/4 times down. how fast will it be really? we dont know. but you can estimate. I did. I estimated I would pull out low 14's with GMS2 since I got 14.7 stock. we all do it. you do it. like you go out to the track and have know Idea what you will run? you do cause you can look at another car, cobalt for cobalt I am talking, or mustang for mustang, and determine what you might run.

that is all were doing. I agree it is harder since this is a first. but at 280HP other cobalts did 12's with DR's and others really close with ST's.

SOme one else posted that you drive a redline which you did not deny, sorry. but now that you say you drive a mustang, I would like to see slips of you and your cobalt. why do you drive a cobalt? More so if you drive a cobalt then you would know what 3rd gear tops out at. you need more seat time in it. it is a little pathetic that since you own the car that you dont know those kind of details. that is why I kinda doubt that you actually drive one and if you do own one then it would be your daily driver? wouldnt it?

Oh and I know of a car that is faster than you here, but not out of the hole. FWD 1.8 60', 118mph trap, and the car is on this board. but it is not a Cobalt. Its an SRT4. They have been around a little longer so people have figured out what works plus he knows how to use math, turbo maps, is good at researching his project. it is a daily driver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ2YFQ6-iO8

define run of the mill foxbody? and who would not admit to it? I think I missed those posts. and that alternate ricer dimension is called mustangville I guess? I know you already apologized for lumping all of together but man I just dont understand it. WE have a goal - to become fast. what is wrong with that. and if you dont think what has been done here is a possible step forward then just state that, why and do it in a respectful matter. If were so wrong in suspecting the car could actually be pretty fast and do 12's for sure (and we mean at least high 12's) then how can you be so right? we need slips right?


Yeah and we can only suspect that it will perform this well. can say for sure. it is a prediction.

Now that is funny. the cars engine hasnt been built yet. it has big ass tires. you have seen no performance out of this project yet and your scared? I guess you can predict the future and cannot deny that one....LOL

As far as not fast, well it is not tuned, the major obstacle is heat and boost levels. those have been achieved. lets face it. he could burn out the motor very shortly at 22 PSI. no one is claiming victory here, but the attempt to go faster seems to be working out so far.

You have got to be kidding. well first that is the point of this thread, this forum, the cobalt is an amazing little car with potential to obtain some high horsepower. are you denying that? or are you just opposed to something else, like the way people are trying to find ways to tap into producing some HP and performance? that is what I just dont understand.

I didnt post slips cause I dont have slips. I didnt give a specific time cause my mods dictate where I should be. not that I am there. sorry for that. I can see how that sounded and that was not my intention to misrepresent. so let me fix it by saying the mods that I have should work out to low 13's based on others experience. I feel I can reproduce those results as I was able to reproduce others results with the GMS2 kit, meaning I can drive. I have that slip. You want to see that?

anyway. back on track with this thread.

TWIN SCREW....... Will it be the Turning point in the quest of speed with a Cobalt.

can someone please get sometimes. I want to know it performs as much as the doubters here.

I can undoubtedly say I am faster than 13.9. much faster. But slips, sorry I dont have any. My word will have to sufice.

 

Why am I taking too long or do you just want it for the fun factor I'm enjoying right now?

 

We all hate you. But in a good way.

 

I am hoping it puts out a certain amount of performance with stock motor so I can reasonably obtain my goal for HP. I would like to shoot for a minimum of 400HP at the crank and perhaps 500HP at the crank. but I dont want to go to the trouble of building up the tranny. It has been reported that best guess is that the input shaft should be able to handle 450 or 500 or something inbetween. Victory Red SS was letting me know as he was trying to get the tranny built to withstand his project. he has been a great source to figure out my goals.

so if twin screw can reasonably produce 300WHP with exhaust modifications and do it reliably then I feel with a build of the motor my goal can be met. I want to do it with a SC but turbo might be the better way. people making steps like this are helping me in my eventual build. and I thank them for that.

 

You know what im talking about haha, cant wait to hear the #'s man, wish I lived by you then maybe I could get a ride......Please hahaha

 

That's ok with me. I will say that this endevour has drained me physically and monitarily, but every time I romp on the car it's all pure bliss for me! There are not many people that would put in the effort here that the guys at Rebel Auto Worx and myself have put into this kit. Not only am I tuning the kit on my ride and working out the kinks, but I'm also making sure that the kit up to the standards I expect it to be for you guys. We're working on making the instructions more accurate and detailed so everything goes smoothly, and making the modifications necessary to make a reliable and powerful kit. I did not buy my as a finished product, but as a test bed to assist Rebel with this project. There are some minor hiccups we've seen and some kinks to still be worked out, but in the end it'll be a badass product for everyone to enjoy that can scrounge up the funds.

People keep saying that the kit is unreasonable in price, but when you look at all the money I had to spend to get my 2.6" pulley setup to where it was, there was not that much of a difference in price. I mean the damn blower alone goes for around $1500, and then add the machining and aluminum welding that has gone into this kit, and $3000 really isn't a bad price for it all.

 

Good Point!

 

I'll be driving to Florida Sunday actually. I'm going to Eglin AFB near Ft. Walton Beach for two weeks of training, so I'll be cruising around in my free time. If you want to make the trip, I'm sure I'll be free for the most part on the weekends. I'm hoping to take the car if all goes well this week. I'll keep you posted if you'd like.

 

HELL YEAH man definately, are you going through Jacksonville by chance? Im not sure where your destination is exactly, never heard of it lol

 

I'm actually going to be picking up I-10W at Jacksonville since Eglin AFB is 45 minutes east of Pensacola in the pan handle. If I leave early enough in the morning I might be able to hang out in Jacksonville for a couple hours during for lunch on Sunday.

 

Sounds good man im down, too bad I dont have my car but we will work something out, PM me your # and everything and I will give you a call tommorow and see what we can set up but for now im out, gotta work in the morning, L8tr

 

hey 2k how far are you from Cola.? I want a ride in that thing

 

that is awesome!!! hands down it definately proves the efficiency of that blower.

 

I'm right here in North Charleston man. It's about a 1-1.5hour drive for you depending on how fast you drive. I'll be leaving sunday as I stated, but I'll be back after the 1st. Send me a PM.

Yeah, I was pretty stoked when I saw those results. I can't wait to spray my meth in there on top of that too! Can you say Ice Cold!

 

My stock Ecotec 2.0 S/C'd car will blow the doors off most any Mousestang, drag racing,autocross or roadracing;any venue you would like to choose.BUT,this thread is not about whose car is faster.
2k5ss/sc has boldly gone where others would like to follow,including myself.It is not really about whose the "fastest" or who makes the huge numbers,it's all about making what you have better for YOU.
If this twin screw unit turns out to be a step up from the Eaton blower,and by first glance it appears to be,this will benefit all Ecotec 2.0 s/c owners as it is progress foreward.

 

 

Using your logic I can claim I SHOULD run mid to low 12s because I make over 300whp on a mustang dyno. My fastest slip is when I had a CAI, 42.5lbers, and a 2.6" tuned with a maf-t and a 6500rpm limiter and that was a 13.7@103.3. I also DO have slicks waiting to be mounted I just gotta finish shaving the calipers.

But I dont claim those times. I dont claim any since the car hasn't been to the track since its swap.

Point is dont make **** up. Until you run it, it is assumed you cant.

Tis All...Still wanna see numbers on this swap tho

 

another bored asshat, I like stangs not so much the new ones but defanetly the old fox bodys . I bet the average fox body didnt run12's all day 3 years after they came out, if im not mistaken they were running 14's like us...

you just dont build a 12 second car over night...

 

Fox body mustangs...incredible performance

http://musclecarclub.com/musclecars/...istory-3.shtml

Most of those stock run about as fast as a Cobalt LT. Have to say though didn't know they made a 4cyl Turbo Mustang

79 was such a good year though:

Performance: 2.3 I4 Turbo: 0-60 in 9.1 seconds, 1/4 mile in 17.4 seconds @ 82 mph. 302 V8: 0-60 in 8.3 seconds, 1/4 mile in 17.0 seconds @ 84.8 mph.

In its defense there were a lot of emissions **** going on at this time.

 

And those numbers aren't accurate. The 87' and up were low 14's cars stock.

 

Owned.

 

Back to the topic at hand, we are not talking about a mustang that everybody and there mom has

 

 

i love it when ariel atom owners come here. :