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....I think he means a car that:
a. will eventually be completed
b. resembles the car it originally was
c. has less in mods then what the car itself costed
Dont forget there is a geo storm that runs 9s...or is it 8s...i dont remember but it runs in the single digits...on the 4cylinder
a. will eventually be completed
b. resembles the car it originally was
c. has less in mods then what the car itself costed
Dont forget there is a geo storm that runs 9s...or is it 8s...i dont remember but it runs in the single digits...on the 4cylinder
That is starting to sound alot like ricer excuses.
The Geo didn't originally come with a four cyl did it ?(I'm not really sure), but my car will run on the same engine it came with. As for certain mods go, they were required simply to hold the power levels the LSJ will produce. I have/am doing many things simply out of necessity. If I chose to just do the race prepped auto transmission, that alone would have been more than the original cost of the car.
As for the car ever being completed, I have no arguement there.
*ending hijack*
I'd like to see ur mustang take a turn at high speed, run a road course, look good, get 30mpg, connect to an ipod, pretty much anything cept drive fast in a straight line and smoke tires.
you said you own a cobalt so talk about ur cobalt not ur stang.
*hijacking thread*
That is starting to sound alot like ricer excuses.
The Geo didn't originally come with a four cyl did it ?(I'm not really sure), but my car will run on the same engine it came with. As for certain mods go, they were required simply to hold the power levels the LSJ will produce. I have/am doing many things simply out of necessity. If I chose to just do the race prepped auto transmission, that alone would have been more than the original cost of the car.
As for the car ever being completed, I have no arguement there.
*ending hijack*
That is starting to sound alot like ricer excuses.
The Geo didn't originally come with a four cyl did it ?(I'm not really sure), but my car will run on the same engine it came with. As for certain mods go, they were required simply to hold the power levels the LSJ will produce. I have/am doing many things simply out of necessity. If I chose to just do the race prepped auto transmission, that alone would have been more than the original cost of the car.
As for the car ever being completed, I have no arguement there.
*ending hijack*
BTW gm 4t56hd-e built for the 1400hp cobalts is 5500 usd last time i checked. Part number is in the build book along with the motor mounts and adapter plated needed. Designed for 1400hp for a weekend. Also intense and zzp do builds for 800+hp. And gm sells all the adapters.
You COULD have kept it fwd
Well ****, if were going to argue here and this thread has become usless, then fine. If I had a 347ci stroker motor and all the mods to boot, then I'm pretty damn sure my Cobalt would be faster. Unfortunately it only has 122ci which is almost a third of what you have. I have torn the nuts off a couple modded local Fox bodies and they were on 10.5 slicks too. By the way, what is your definition of fast? I mean seriously your comparing a damn drag car to a street car for the most part. Obviously my FWD without slicks isn't going to cut the same 60' time as your RWD car with slicks!
Now back to the pertinent info in this thread. I just did a quick datalog on my way to lunch. The normal IAT2's were at 126* and at ~7000rpms and 20-22psi it was only at 163*! This is without methanol injection too! Not bad on a 97 degree humid ass day if I do say so myself! Oh and just to let all the nay sayers on efficency know, the car is running 23* of timing without methanol injection and I get 0 knock! Let's see your M62 do that!
Now back to the pertinent info in this thread. I just did a quick datalog on my way to lunch. The normal IAT2's were at 126* and at ~7000rpms and 20-22psi it was only at 163*! This is without methanol injection too! Not bad on a 97 degree humid ass day if I do say so myself! Oh and just to let all the nay sayers on efficency know, the car is running 23* of timing without methanol injection and I get 0 knock! Let's see your M62 do that!
a couple cars i have tuned have gotten away with 23* with zero knock.
it call comes down to the tuner.
I know he asked what car ran that time but besides that I think most of us dont care about ur stang.
I'd like to see ur mustang take a turn at high speed, run a road course, look good, get 30mpg, connect to an ipod, pretty much anything cept drive fast in a straight like and smoke tires.
you said you own a cobalt so talk about ur cobalt not ur stang.
I'd like to see ur mustang take a turn at high speed, run a road course, look good, get 30mpg, connect to an ipod, pretty much anything cept drive fast in a straight like and smoke tires.
you said you own a cobalt so talk about ur cobalt not ur stang.
My car has a full 10 pt roll cage, more suspenion parts than I'm going to list, sticky 255 40 R17's, it handles GREAT. Many would agree my car looks great, especially with my hood and exterior add ons. 30 mpg, LOL, not gonna happen. But no decent running cobalt is going to get that kinda mileage either. My cd player has an auxillary input, i can plug an ipod right in, thats not exactly a really high end feature there.
Check the 60' again, I don't smoke the tires. And my car is not a drag car, I drive it all the time, and I drive it to and from the track.
I will agree though, this isnt the place to talk about my mustang. My mustang thats faster than every car on this board, (bwahahahaha).
ok im done, seriously.
Now back to the pertinent info in this thread. I just did a quick datalog on my way to lunch. The normal IAT2's were at 126* and at ~7000rpms and 20-22psi it was only at 163*! This is without methanol injection too! Not bad on a 97 degree humid ass day if I do say so myself! Oh and just to let all the nay sayers on efficency know, the car is running 23* of timing without methanol injection and I get 0 knock! Let's see your M62 do that!
My car has a full 10 pt roll cage, more suspenion parts than I'm going to list, sticky 255 40 R17's, it handles GREAT. Many would agree my car looks great, especially with my hood and exterior add ons. 30 mpg, LOL, not gonna happen. But no decent running cobalt is going to get that kinda mileage either. My cd player has an auxillary input, i can plug an ipod right in, thats not exactly a really high end feature there.
Check the 60' again, I don't smoke the tires.
I will agree though, this isnt the place to talk about my mustang. My mustang thats faster than every car on this board, (bwahahahaha).
ok im done, seriously.
Check the 60' again, I don't smoke the tires.
I will agree though, this isnt the place to talk about my mustang. My mustang thats faster than every car on this board, (bwahahahaha).
ok im done, seriously.
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Master Shake, my Cobalt with the 2.6" pulley setup I just took off did 38mpg at 80mph last month on my drive to North Carolina.
Area47, I'm not trying to be an ass here, but you can away with a hell of a lot more when your only running 16-17psi.
Area47, I'm not trying to be an ass here, but you can away with a hell of a lot more when your only running 16-17psi.
handles good? ya maybe for a mustang
And some ppl like the way a Pontiac Aztec looks.....anyways.
The point is to stay on topic and not start a mustang vs cobalt argument in the middle of the thread.
The point is to stay on topic and not start a mustang vs cobalt argument in the middle of the thread.
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Actually i think your right...it was on the factory 1.0L 3 cylinder from the storm rsi iirc
BTW gm 4t56hd-e built for the 1400hp cobalts is 5500 usd last time i checked. Part number is in the build book along with the motor mounts and adapter plated needed. Designed for 1400hp for a weekend. Also intense and zzp do builds for 800+hp. And gm sells all the adapters.
You COULD have kept it fwd
...hell it would have been cheaper
BTW gm 4t56hd-e built for the 1400hp cobalts is 5500 usd last time i checked. Part number is in the build book along with the motor mounts and adapter plated needed. Designed for 1400hp for a weekend. Also intense and zzp do builds for 800+hp. And gm sells all the adapters.
You COULD have kept it fwd
i know man, im just givin ya ****, thats all
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2 minutes of searching:
http://tunersource.gmblogs.com/Racer...L61-Build-Book
Part numbers and ecotec to 4t65 adapter under the 4t65hd racing part...also has standalone tranny controller
For 4t65hd into an cobalt engine bay (gm special mounts) go to the Phase 5 cobalt section page 120 part numbers are there
See easy to find with part numbers and contact info. Also not nearly as hard to buy as parts that are custom made and don't exist
I know before you said RWD was because u couldnt find strong enough components...did you really look hard enough?
Now you decide to mention you wanted teh manual...quaife gearset + custom input/output shafts is still cheaper then backhalfing your car
this thread makes me hate mustangs even more than i do now. i see them all the time and don't understand why everyone is so ga-ga over them. i, for one, am extremely excited about the twinscrew and have been keeping a close eye on it. i really think the numbers are there, and when looking at price vs. tearing down the motor and completely building a race block and puting $k's into it, i like this setup even more.
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In the cost of the conversion is also the NHRA approved chassis which would have still been needed with my intended power levels. You will see that by the time you add everything up my cost isn't really that much more.
I did a lot of home work before making the decision to go rwd. A decision that was not made lightly.
Even my car won't come close to Gardella's.
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