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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by zeezsrt4
your first and only problem is

intense pcm

i would never buy anything from intense

you ever been to their shop and seen their work in person? or maybe you have a world record car?
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by eastcoastz
Yea as far as I know Intense has great customer service. You will probly have to send it back for a reflash. I didn't know they have tunes to work with CAIs now?!
Ive been in touch with Intense. They don't have a tune to work with a CAI all they keep saying is that there working on a tune for a CAI. I don't see whats taking so long to tune it.
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by srt-killer
Ive been in touch with Intense. They don't have a tune to work with a CAI all they keep saying is that there working on a tune for a CAI. I don't see whats taking so long to tune it.
It comes out of their pocket for dyno time so its out of their money to find someone and everything. Also, they are probably busy working on more projects.
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zeezsrt4
your first and only problem is

intense pcm

i would never buy anything from intense
And you have purchased umm...how many things from them...oh and wow...thats kind of a large statement to make in your first post ever on the forums.
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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And you have purchased umm...how many things from them...oh and wow...thats kind of a large statement to make in your first post ever on the forums.
just looking out for the fellow brethren that like to mod

i used to own a gtp and intense sure made their products look nice and state of the art to first come out, but they didn't test their ****.

put out pcm's for 04 gtp, let the pcm have ridiculous amounts of timing blowing up engines.

don't ever buy an lsd from them if they offer it, so many transmissions that have gone to waste because of them.

i know there isn't a huge market out there for you guys, but, it's quite convenient how intense is one of the bigger ones to make it out to you guys.

just giving you all a heads up.
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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oh, and i did have an intense pcm in my gtp, and it was ******* up my car. got rid of it and got the dhp powertuner and my car was miracuously healed.

i'm not trying to flame

peace
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Old Jul 16, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by zeezsrt4
i used to own a gtp and intense sure made their products look nice and state of the art to first come out, but they didn't test their ****.
Didn't test their ****? I don't know about the GTPs...but I was there for the testing of every single stage flash of the PCMs.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by zeezsrt4
just looking out for the fellow brethren that like to mod

i used to own a gtp and intense sure made their products look nice and state of the art to first come out, but they didn't test their ****.

put out pcm's for 04 gtp, let the pcm have ridiculous amounts of timing blowing up engines.

don't ever buy an lsd from them if they offer it, so many transmissions that have gone to waste because of them.

i know there isn't a huge market out there for you guys, but, it's quite convenient how intense is one of the bigger ones to make it out to you guys.

just giving you all a heads up.
My man Z speaks the truth.

I bought my friend an IPCM for his GTP and it started making his car run like crap. Switched to a DHP and it was also "miracuously" healed.

If you were there for the testing and the dyno, I would be glad and thankful. The GP community was lied to about their "hundreds of cars dynoed".
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 02:53 AM
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I think Snowman has it. If not we should be getting a dyno/tuning day at Vivid Racing soon.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by srt-killer
Im not sure if this problem deals with the Intense PCM or What but its really starting to **** me off....I cant even idle my car for more than 2-3 min or els it wants to die. Im not sure if its flooding it self or WTF. It just starts to idle all crazy and when i try to rev it it just starts to back fire and the boost gage is going all cazy. It happend to me already like 5 times, even if i try to turn off the car and turn it back on, it stays the same. I have to turn off the car and go disconect my battery and reconect it, than it runs ok. Its so Fn imbareising. I cant even go through a F**kn drive thru.
I have one question.
Are you using your A/C when these issues occur?
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Any loose or cracked vacum lines????

That would cause crappy idle and would even stall the car.

Check all your lines and make sure there all tight and in good shape.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc
I have one question.
Are you using your A/C when these issues occur?
No. Why?
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by srt-killer
No. Why?
I've noticed with the heat and a/c running that the IAT temps skyrocketed during slow driving (in traffic). I tested this, during my drive to Tampa. I noticed that the IAT2 temps rose while using the a/c (about 4-8 degrees) during highway speeds (65+mph). I also noticed that while driving in city traffic with the a/c on the IAT2 temps rose to 30+ ambient temps (which were around 95).
When I was on the dyno we noticed a lot more knock when the temps got around 135-140+ @ IAT2. So, maybe there was a bit of detonation going on that was a result of a high IAT2 temp. The heat exchanger is efficient, although if there isn't any air flow it can only work so well. Also, have you had a chance to check out the radiator (the one closest to the engine) after driving, that thing is scalding....so, think about the heat exchanger...it has to suffer from the heat as well.
These are just a few observations. Nothing scientific
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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If you were there for the testing and the dyno, I would be glad and thankful. The GP community was lied to about their "hundreds of cars dynoed".
Brian, I realize you have it out for us and probably feel that your justified for whatever reason, but we have not lied about dynoing nor will we. I can only vouch for the cars that we have dynod since I've been with INTENSE the past 1.5 years but in that time we have done easily over 100 3800s and probably 50+ LSJs within the last 8 months. A lot of you old school 3800s have been around for a while and while there may have been problems in the past before Tim and I got here rest assured that we are doing everything we can to bring about high quality, tested products to help car enthusiasts get what they want from their cars. This doesn't mean we are perfect and sometimes we do make mistakes but we do our best to take care of those situations.

When was the last time you purchased something from us Brian? How long have you been hating on everything we do or bring to market just because, as you have put it before, you hate all the vendors and want to do anything possible to stir up trouble.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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SRT-Killer, shoot me an email with your name and I will have Scott look up your code to see if there is anythign wrong with it. Maybe we will just send you out another PCM. Do you have a way to scan the car to get various parameters?
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dstinsman56
one shop that uses hp tuners quoted me 600 dollars to tune and 8 hours. they said i would be the first one they tuned and i told them no thanks!

I easily have 20 + hours into my tune for my car with HPtuners.

I am watching this thread and I want the negative crap cut out by the trolls. I think you have your own websites to cry on.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by zinner
I am watching this thread and I want the negative crap cut out by the trolls. I think you have your own websites to cry on.
+1...I agree...bringing up crap in regards to PCMs with GPs is bullcrap.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
+1...I agree...bringing up crap in regards to PCMs with GPs is bullcrap.
you missed the point.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 04:25 AM
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I, along with other people, were directed to this thread VIA a link on another site. A former GP owner turned SS/SC owner linked it and I found it interesting if you MUST know where us "trolls" came from. You dont want to listen, fine. Do what you will. Its your car and money. Im not going to tell you how to spend it. You think Im crying? I dont have an intense PCM. Im fine.

Todd, the last thing I bought from you for my car IIRC was SLP headers. They work great. They are from SLP.

The last thing I paid for from you was a PCM for my friend as a present. If you want to check it out, Robert Starr. 98 GTP. Id get into more details, but I dont want to come off as "bashing" I guess.

As I stated, do what you want to. Its not my car.

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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 05:32 AM
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When Intense released all these pcm's I remember them implicitly stating on this site the stock air box was used and was desired . It still should be on the website though .

srt-killer- One option you could look into is converting to a LT1 maf sensor and LT1 IAT sensor . Youd need to fab up a 3.5 " CAI . Then email Rob(FAST06SS) for a tune to rescale your maf tables for the LT1 sensors . That totally eliminates the SUPER touchy LSJ Maf . Its the way Im gonna go , Ive already seen Robs car run in person with this set up installed . LT1 mafs and that IAT sensor you can dirt cheap used , all depends on your fabbing skills for the intake .
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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Big thing is hptuners doesnt hae enough resolution for 60 lb injectors. In my car I disabled the system to rich light and just let the car's self learn ltft tables take over. I'll prob sd tune it soon as I get time but we really need more resolution on the ifr vs map table.

I've been there for their dyno sessions and they are a great bunch. I learned a ton from them just in the few hours I was there. Hell my custom tune uses parts of theirs along with some other stuff I brewed up. I just prefer to tune my car slightly different from the way they tuned it.

It does say to have STOCK intake...all cars dynoed for kit development used stock intakes because intakes really do mess up the maf.

Not bashing or anything but at IDD7 an intense gp diff blew apart in the staging lanes. I saw some humor in it.

But this is a cobalt forum and so far they have given us the most support of any vendor and I always recommend them to my friends and so far have had 4+ people buy parts from them that were looking elsewhere.

Dan
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue
SRT-Killer, shoot me an email with your name and I will have Scott look up your code to see if there is anythign wrong with it. Maybe we will just send you out another PCM. Do you have a way to scan the car to get various parameters?
Thanks for your help. Highly appreciative. I sent you an e-mail.
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