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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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im hoping hes open to making more in the future im grinding up the parts for my big block cobalt project (darton sleeves with max overbore and le5 crank, hoping for 2.7 displacement) and want the mp90 to pressurize it! plus its nice that there is at least one other blower available for us. m62 or tvs is a fairly boring spread, if he keeps the mp90 in production long enough it will gather its own following. particularly after i break this **** wide open.
Per Darton, the max that the sleeves can be overbored is to 90 mm before the sleeves start losing integrity. If you were to go 90mm and also use the 98mm LE5 crank, your total displacement would be 2493cc or 2.5L

However, you probably shouldn't run the sleeves at 90mm in case of any possible reason to hone the sleeves out a little further in case of a ringland blowout or something...

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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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Really not expensive when you look at what it costs to build a motor to sustain a lot more power though
So true lol we got over 20k in our drag motor and the sc kit for it only runs 3500 lol
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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2.5 liter will have to be big enough stroked, sleeved with dished pistons and ton of boost . its a simple goal really, the worlds most powerful pump-gas supercharged cobalt.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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planning on keeping it low compression?
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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thats the plan. around 8 - 8.5, then beg borrow or steal one of these mp90 kits to load it with air. going to do every other mod to these thats ever been done along the way and then add a few more of my own and with a little luck ill set the record. hoping to keep it to under 20k but its gonna cost whatever its gonna cost.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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Sounds like its going to be a monster build...
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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its all going to be expensive but im going to do it right. ill dyno after this coming round of mods as a baseline, should be around 270 or so then ill start pouring on the cash as see how far i can lift the bar. zzp is going to make quite a bit more off of me than they already have. this round of mods will include all of the bolt ons. then its all about upgrading the motor itself. of course a new trans and lnf axles/hubs will have to go with a stronger clutch after this round but thats to be expected.

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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 10:17 PM
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Get a set of stg2 Cams and valve springs and rev it out on a 3.3-3.5 pulley to 8k.
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 11:46 PM
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Screw a MP90 get a MP112 lol
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 03:17 AM
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May as well... 1.8L on a 2.5 block... sounds like a sweet setup
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 07:21 AM
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5th gen mp112? have you attempted a kit for that yet? or would it be a prototype? if its a prototype ill buy an extra ls4 tb and lower intake and send them out to you so you can mock it up as a complete kit. do you think its worth it to try and find a used m112? i see a few of them for sale on ebay, just a question of whats the closest application to the cobalt to minimize the customization time. my only concern it the bottom of the efficiency map, i know you can spin them too slow to be effective, if the m112 moves so much air that i have to run a underdrive pulley will it still be efficient? the m90 powered a 3.8 without trouble, im just curious if the m112 is too big for its own good.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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I'd make it work :P
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by zfissette
5th gen mp112? have you attempted a kit for that yet? or would it be a prototype? if its a prototype ill buy an extra ls4 tb and lower intake and send them out to you so you can mock it up as a complete kit. do you think its worth it to try and find a used m112? i see a few of them for sale on ebay, just a question of whats the closest application to the cobalt to minimize the customization time. my only concern it the bottom of the efficiency map, i know you can spin them too slow to be effective, if the m112 moves so much air that i have to run a underdrive pulley will it still be efficient? the m90 powered a 3.8 without trouble, im just curious if the m112 is too big for its own good.
Its just a bit longer than the MP90. And remember a Eaton M series is not the same as a Magnuson MP supercharger. Magnuson's cases flow 100cfm more than a Eaton made supercharger.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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Its just a bit longer than the MP90. And remember a Eaton M series is not the same as a Magnuson MP supercharger. Magnuson's cases flow 100cfm more than a Eaton made supercharger.
Yea uuhhhh, I'm gonna need you to come up to Seattle for a custom S/C install please
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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Yea uuhhhh, I'm gonna need you to come up to Seattle for a custom S/C install please
lol what do you want done?

Twin TVS 2300s lol
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 05:39 PM
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LMAO holy **** son!
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 06:13 PM
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i know the mp series flows better, but with this big of a blower and this small of a motor, is that as relevant? The m series i could get used for a few hundred, i assume the new mp will cost 10 times as much. if there is no way to take advantage of the extra flow capability is it worth the cash? ill believe you if you say yes, but be honest about it. my budget is big but not unlimited if i can save several thousand and still set the record then thats fine. plus once ive got all the other mods and motor work done, the better blower will be a way to continue to push the bar.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by zfissette
i know the mp series flows better, but with this big of a blower and this small of a motor, is that as relevant? The m series i could get used for a few hundred, i assume the new mp will cost 10 times as much. if there is no way to take advantage of the extra flow capability is it worth the cash? ill believe you if you say yes, but be honest about it. my budget is big but not unlimited if i can save several thousand and still set the record then thats fine. plus once ive got all the other mods and motor work done, the better blower will be a way to continue to push the bar.
If your talking about a Cobra M112 theres nothing in the world to make it fit/work. The only Eaton M112 that might work is the one off the Jag.
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 10:54 PM
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okay, i just need to know what the price for the mp112 is going to be, having trouble even finding a price for the unit. 3 or 4k?
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by zfissette
okay, i just need to know what the price for the mp112 is going to be, having trouble even finding a price for the unit. 3 or 4k?
I belive you can get them new from Maggie for under $1500. I got a quote for $1100 when my friend worked there and that was a polished unit. I got a guy who still works there I'll get a price for you tomorrow.
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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The MP90 needs to have the shorter snout. I was looking at getting one but you have to have the shorter snout or it won't fit. It's all up to you but one thing you have to worry about is that the MP90 is set up for 6 cylinder setups similar to the GTP Grand Prixs so you have to make sure that you build it right or you could damage some stuff.
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by littleasian90
The MP90 needs to have the shorter snout. I was looking at getting one but you have to have the shorter snout or it won't fit. It's all up to you but one thing you have to worry about is that the MP90 is set up for 6 cylinder setups similar to the GTP Grand Prixs so you have to make sure that you build it right or you could damage some stuff.
The MP90 is just a s/c sized at nearly 1.5L

There is no specific "size" per say. Magnuson offers a assortment of different length snouts.

The MP90 also uses a simple bolt pattern, that could easily be fitted w/ an adapter for most manifold applications.

bolt and tune accordingly, this goes for any setup even the m62.
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 100% METH
The MP90 is just a s/c sized at nearly 1.5L

There is no specific "size" per say. Magnuson offers a assortment of different length snouts.

The MP90 also uses a simple bolt pattern, that could easily be fitted w/ an adapter for most manifold applications.

bolt and tune accordingly, this goes for any setup even the m62.
What he said ^^^^^
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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any luck with a price for the mp112?
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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any luck with a price for the mp112?
Still waiting on a price.
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