i seen approx 15 degree diff at cruising going from 2.8 to a 2.7.
approx 30- 40 diff in moderate to heavy traffic
the iat2 would soar after a pull but as long as your moving after it would recover fairly quick.

if i wanted to run meth i would try 2.6 or a 2.5. i bet the resulting smile would be priceless.

 

What were your cooling mods? thats a hell of a temp jump

 

just option b, fmic, dual pass. i had a phenolic but removed it due to it leaking. the increase in heat wasnt that bad. the car was able to handle it, i just made sure i didnt do a pull when it was running hot. if you havent done the ac condenser intercooler switch i suggest to do it. getting the stock he out in the open really helps. i recently removed the condensor and i am running cooler then i ever have. even when i was on a 2.8 pulley.

 

My condenser shat out on me so i took it out and havent replaced


Boughht a zzp stealth heat exchanger hope that helps

 

I heard those aren't all they are cracked up to be. But it'll be better than nothing I suppose

 

Cooling mods are over rated

 

I agree, my IAT's stay in check

 

Stfu, traitor!

Well see. The 3x more capacity, fill cap should make it worth it let alone a set of cooling fans im hoping to find in my basement somewhere

 

make sure to have them weld a fitting for option B at the top

 

lol i see. so how come you havent gutted the compressor yet? hahahaahahahah

might as well do a ac delete, or buy one of my condensor's. i will never need it again.

 

Did you do a gasket on each side of it?

 

i assume your talking about the phenolic spacer. yes i did. i torqued the bolts proper but they just kept backing off with time. the hardware they supplied was not very good. after i took it off i learned that the intake mani flowed better without in my opinion. in my experience i found by doing a ac delete i was able to achieve slightly more then double the cooling capabilities over the phenolic.

all im saying is there isnt much diff between a 2.8 to a 2.7. if i was running meth like RB i would drop to a 2.6 or a 2.5. it would be a blast.

 

I am selling meth lol.

a dab of loctite would have fixed that issue.

 

so you mounted your intake in front of the radiator

someone else gets it

I don't think you need that with the stealth due to the fill point

 

i don't think so either there's really no need at that point to have an option b; which is fine by me because my hose routing job sucks

 

may have, but it still interupts the flow. i doubt i will do meth. im more leaning to a gm stg3 tune and bottle feeding it. if i had e85 availible here i may reconsider. until then a simple 2.7 setup on 94/110 and a happy button would do just fine.

just remember i dont need ac, the climate is considerably cooler here. i have used 3 times in 6-7 years of owning a balt.

@ mr. b intake infront of rad? fmic=front mount intercooler. ? aftermarket ic, stock ic, rad.

 

This. Even in the build book they tell you to loctite the bolts

 

Correct.
You do not need it.

My option B came from some one who switched to the stealth. He had it on there first and realized it wasnt needed.

 

ya and even if i converted the opt b to flowthrough it wouldn't be needed at that point considering the resioviour is in the hot engine bay.

so yea anyone need an option b lemme know!

 

we don't have a front mount intercooler the intercooler is inside the intake manifold pumpkin drop. the Heat exchanger is out font and a heat exchanger is not the same thing as an intercooler

 

i think what he was asking is what you meant by intake in front of the radiator

 

I've had multiple cooling setups, and really didn't see much difference between any of them. I ended up running my 2.6" TVS setup with a stock h/e and a dual pass. Had a FMHE in sequence for quite a while and a phenolic spacer as well at one point. Put it back to simple and let it ride. My car always had high IAT's ever since stock, no matter what I did. Now in the other car its still high, same setup but with the factory h/e up front. I am not worried about it.

 

i'm not too worried either; just kinda like to be sure when i'm at a redlight in the middle of the summer i can get all my power out. i can definately feel the difference of a cold night pull vs a hot day pull

ps ive seen enough about the phenolic spacer leaking that i suppose i'll ditch it when my mani is off.

my buddy and i are also gonna polish up the mani as well

also just a thought but what do you guys think needs to be done to convert it to single pass? block the holes except one on the drivers side then introduce a new hole on the other?

 

yes rb got it and my bad for wrong terms. i was most likely still half asleep.

 

good info. so what do you consider high IAT2s? like 150+ after a 3rd+ 4th gear pull??