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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 01:18 PM
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He wants the money lol some people dont need it
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 02:38 PM
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Can the NBS delete b done with motor stil in car?
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 03:47 PM
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Rcorona8 just did it
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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i just did my neutrals in car so yes
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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Aren't the pistons a weak point tho? Shouldn't I wait to put cams and such in when I do an engine build?
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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water/meth helps them live. Keeps everything nice and cool.
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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Our stock pistons are very good actually.

High cylinder temps, iat2 and knock kills them

Water meth or e85 keep them alive at high pressures
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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Really? Good to know! I've almost got everything I need for a mini build then. How much from ur guys experience will stock internals hold up to with water/meth?
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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At sea level we've ran the TVS to 28 PSI with out a single hiccup.
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 06:28 PM
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I'm curious tho @ wut hp levels will things start failing? With me running cams and springs/retainers and NBS delete on top of the mp90 running 30ish lbs. When should I consider upgrading pistons rods or gettin a Girdled block?
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 07:23 PM
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Our stock rods have been proven to fail just north of 500whp by ZZPerformance

Our sleeves, pistons/rings are prone to cracking/breaking @ any PSI really. The greater the PSI, the less margin for error.

You can run a stock sleeve, piston/ring setup @ 30 psi safely... If it doesn't knock, IAT2 is where it needs to be, and EGTs are in check... it's unlikely you'll break something; unless one of those three occurs causing the other two to follow.
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Melon
I'm curious tho @ wut hp levels will things start failing? With me running cams and springs/retainers and NBS delete on top of the mp90 running 30ish lbs. When should I consider upgrading pistons rods or gettin a Girdled block?
ultimately... if you are going to get forged pistons and rods... you should purchase a girdled block as well.

FYI... with cams and ported head... you won't be near 30 psi on a MP90.
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Old Jul 10, 2012 | 07:47 PM
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Y do u say that? I'm debating if I wanna put cams in now or wait for Girdled block. I will b doin forged pistons rods valves and such. I will also b porting head when I do the build. Don't think I will b before tho. Unless Jr wants to hook a brotha up. Lol
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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im not gonna list off my mods again, but i am doing everything but the sleeves on this motor. I have a sleeved big bore block already that i will be working on when the car is finished. I was around 362whp when i lost number four, but my meth didnt kick on at the track. I had 82k worth of hard racing miles on my setup that was completely stock. had the meth kicked on id still be running the stock motor. I have since will be going up in compression and have some goodies already in my motor Well see how the stock sleeves will hold as i will be pushing them to their limits with the new setup
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 100% METH
Our stock rods have been proven to fail just north of 500whp by ZZPerformance

Our sleeves, pistons/rings are prone to cracking/breaking @ any PSI really. The greater the PSI, the less margin for error.

You can run a stock sleeve, piston/ring setup @ 30 psi safely... If it doesn't knock, IAT2 is where it needs to be, and EGTs are in check... it's unlikely you'll break something; unless one of those three occurs causing the other two to follow.
Originally Posted by 100% METH
ultimately... if you are going to get forged pistons and rods... you should purchase a girdled block as well.
Pretty much.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by zrated89
im not gonna list off my mods again, but i am doing everything but the sleeves on this motor. I have a sleeved big bore block already that i will be working on when the car is finished. I was around 362whp when i lost number four, but my meth didnt kick on at the track. I had 82k worth of hard racing miles on my setup that was completely stock. had the meth kicked on id still be running the stock motor. I have since will be going up in compression and have some goodies already in my motor Well see how the stock sleeves will hold as i will be pushing them to their limits with the new setup
damn u were up around 362? that makes me feel a lil better bout everything. i saw ur previous post about the hard race miles but didn't remember seeing numbers anywhere. thanks for the input!
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zrated89
im not gonna list off my mods again, but i am doing everything but the sleeves on this motor. I have a sleeved big bore block already that i will be working on when the car is finished. I was around 362whp when i lost number four, but my meth didnt kick on at the track. I had 82k worth of hard racing miles on my setup that was completely stock. had the meth kicked on id still be running the stock motor. I have since will be going up in compression and have some goodies already in my motor Well see how the stock sleeves will hold as i will be pushing them to their limits with the new setup
Wow very nice number haha. Can't wait till your motor is done.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 03:25 PM
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Well fellas, I bought a TVS time to ditch the Heaton!
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Congrats! You're gonna love it. Especially with E.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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Never even pullied down the M62... Its gonna be a nice upgrade
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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Yea it is. Congrats!
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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Never even pullied down the M62... Its gonna be a nice upgrade


smart man, same thing i did, dont waste miney pulleying down the heaton, go straight to the tvs.
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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wish i would've done that. but on the bright side i will have a heaton for sale soon. lol
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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i pullied down once on the heaton and a weak later i had the tvs lol and the a cfew months later i had the engine that i have now
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Old Jul 11, 2012 | 08:35 PM
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lol thats not a bad way to do things! if i had the money i'd have a built short block myself. how do u like that zzp cams? and how is it with the upgrade compression on the pistons? i was thinking of going that route
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