OTTP Long Tube Header
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can you not provide any numbers that the 2.2 saw?
These marketing skills are just gangster, let me tell ya. "I made this, buy it dammit!!!!"
These marketing skills are just gangster, let me tell ya. "I made this, buy it dammit!!!!"
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i would also imagine that the exhaust note is tenfold better than any shorty out there since they make our cars sound like honders lol.
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my point is that for about 410$ + shipping costs and gaskets ZZP's midlength gives say 10hp (all theoretical numbers mind you) and for 700$ yours gives say 13 hp. the extra 3 horsepower isnt worth the 300 dollar difference when 450 gets you so far. you know?
but i will say that i love the quality of all the work that you guys do. just not too interested in something for sale for 6xx that barely outperforms something that was 4xx.
i was not specifically bashing you guys we just want to know if the piece of mind extended by knowing that OTTP made this piece will extend into the performance gains seen with this header installed.
either way i would be waiting to get this header. as this seems to be the only one that i would purchase. so i will keep this thread in mind once the numbers come out (even though they won't show me much in terms of 2.2 NA power since you test on LSJs) and i can gauge claims and dynos from you and say another vendor.
sorry for all misconceptions with previous posts. just worried that dropping the money won't be worth it, prove me wrong OTTP
but i will say that i love the quality of all the work that you guys do. just not too interested in something for sale for 6xx that barely outperforms something that was 4xx.
i was not specifically bashing you guys we just want to know if the piece of mind extended by knowing that OTTP made this piece will extend into the performance gains seen with this header installed.
either way i would be waiting to get this header. as this seems to be the only one that i would purchase. so i will keep this thread in mind once the numbers come out (even though they won't show me much in terms of 2.2 NA power since you test on LSJs) and i can gauge claims and dynos from you and say another vendor.
sorry for all misconceptions with previous posts. just worried that dropping the money won't be worth it, prove me wrong OTTP
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unless i forgot how to use the internets and drop down menus their mid length WITH STAINLESS DOWNPIPE is 413.xx
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well, i've been proven wrong, and that is hellacious cheap. Most header DP combo's run around 600-700 so thats what i based my opinion on.
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thats why i want to see numbers from OTTP. its either 450 or 750 lol
they do good work but i like numbers as well.
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I dunno, MAYBE I'm looking into this too hard, BUT.....
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/deleted-threads-89/ottp-b%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2At-209169/
Might want to check out this little hot thread. This would be a reason why I would show some kind of data to support this header. Quality or not, there is a lot of people pissed with you right now Josh. I'd hate to see your business belly up. I don't think 20 or so faithful people is going to keep you going. Or do you have a day job?
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/deleted-threads-89/ottp-b%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2At-209169/
Might want to check out this little hot thread. This would be a reason why I would show some kind of data to support this header. Quality or not, there is a lot of people pissed with you right now Josh. I'd hate to see your business belly up. I don't think 20 or so faithful people is going to keep you going. Or do you have a day job?
EDIT: the trans/motor mount is made by powell also.
FWIW I will NEVER be against questioning any vendors quality of work, advertised gains, explanations of why their part is better, etc. This is all information that the community should have to better understand what decision they are making
I dunno, MAYBE I'm looking into this too hard, BUT.....
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=209169
Might want to check out this little hot thread. This would be a reason why I would show some kind of data to support this header. Quality or not, there is a lot of people pissed with you right now Josh. I'd hate to see your business belly up. I don't think 20 or so faithful people is going to keep you going. Or do you have a day job?
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=209169
Might want to check out this little hot thread. This would be a reason why I would show some kind of data to support this header. Quality or not, there is a lot of people pissed with you right now Josh. I'd hate to see your business belly up. I don't think 20 or so faithful people is going to keep you going. Or do you have a day job?
I have a good idea.... If u want proof just wait or buy it and get ur own.
First no 2 cars are gonna be the same so what one person is gonna dyno vs another is completely insignificant....
Second if ur skeptical then just wait
there that solves everything!
The one thing that has been proven is that ottp sells great products and has great customer service so if u need more than that just don't buy it
First no 2 cars are gonna be the same so what one person is gonna dyno vs another is completely insignificant....
Second if ur skeptical then just wait
there that solves everything!
The one thing that has been proven is that ottp sells great products and has great customer service so if u need more than that just don't buy it
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mind you thats all for 2.5 dp and all that. most people charge more for 3" and they use a cheap magnaflow cat so its not a direct comparison but you get the point.
thats why i want to see numbers from OTTP. its either 450 or 750 lol
they do good work but i like numbers as well.
thats why i want to see numbers from OTTP. its either 450 or 750 lol
they do good work but i like numbers as well.
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listen this thread is derailing. Ralliartist you did a single pass and got help from me I told you it worked.
Deathscythe did a header comparison, dyno and all, blew his car up. Everyone piled on said his data was flawed and the JPB he called out as junk was not.
so whats a guy gonna do?
here is my take on it.
Deathscythes flawed testing? Vibrant was good.
OTTP's considered opinion going into a header? If he makes it and he is, I am on the list and cant wait to buy one and get it on my car.
The rest? Wait. dont get all bent out of shape we are happy to buy and try and some of us will let you know.
BTW Longtubes work excellent on many cars. In fact I dont know of a short tube header that works better than a long tube on any motor. Does anyone here? Let me know thanks
Deathscythe did a header comparison, dyno and all, blew his car up. Everyone piled on said his data was flawed and the JPB he called out as junk was not.
so whats a guy gonna do?
here is my take on it.
Deathscythes flawed testing? Vibrant was good.
OTTP's considered opinion going into a header? If he makes it and he is, I am on the list and cant wait to buy one and get it on my car.
The rest? Wait. dont get all bent out of shape we are happy to buy and try and some of us will let you know.
BTW Longtubes work excellent on many cars. In fact I dont know of a short tube header that works better than a long tube on any motor. Does anyone here? Let me know thanks
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