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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 05:09 PM
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What this look like to you guys??

I'm E85 running about .78-.81 lambda at WOT. 1.07 @ Cruise
3.0 Pulley with Intake, and full exhaust(catless).
These had about 5k miles on them.

These normal on E85 or what? I'm unsure what they should look like, my last set-up was regular 93oct and it was running rich as hell, plugs were just pure black with soot.



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Old Jun 15, 2012 | 06:20 PM
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This is EXACTLY the same as mine when I switch out my spark plugs. It is running rich, I am on canned tune.
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Old Jun 16, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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No one else wants to chime in here???
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 01:46 PM
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They look good to me, have a brown / light gray tint, I do see a few black spots on the center plug in the picture, are these the stock heat range plugs?
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 03:34 PM
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They look good to me, have a brown / light gray tint, I do see a few black spots on the center plug in the picture, are these the stock heat range plugs?
I was getting some spark blowout at cruise and wot. So, I changed the gap and new plugs. No blowout yet.

They are 1 Step Colder from stock. I'm on E85 with a 3.0 Pulley.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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The one on the left looks normal. The other too look like they were running rich.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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I can live with rich. Lean is bad LOL
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 06:47 PM
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Also, I just thought it may either be slightly rich OR it couldjust be that your spark plug is running too cold.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bratboy90
I was getting some spark blowout at cruise and wot. So, I changed the gap and new plugs. No blowout yet.

They are 1 Step Colder from stock. I'm on E85 with a 3.0 Pulley.
Are the copper, iridium, what? Some LSJs can handle moving to iridium, and some loveeee being on copper.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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Are the copper, iridium, what? Some LSJs can handle moving to iridium, and some loveeee being on copper.
Coppers, I replace em about every oil change. or two. And are 1 step colder.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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looks lik ur running a little rich..i had the same thing when i was going thru tuning and id also get a little spark blowout up top
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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I pretty much wanted my tuner to make me be rich and tune conservatively. I'm way to hard on my car to have discipline. 2.7 Pulley, Dual Pass, and Phenolic spacer soon to get me where I'd like to be performance wise.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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Thats really rich, you can adjust your lambda to .82 - .85 and it will run a lot better on e85. Your plugs should have a tan / brown color to them, it it looks white at all your running too lean. It they are black like that your running rich, and from the look of those way too rich. The 2 on the right look like they have lots of carbon build up on them.
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Old Jun 17, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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u dont need colder imho with your mods, i would run OEM NGK plugs the center electrode porcelain should be chocolate brown to beige. They should last 60 k miles easily. And torque your plugs down to spec, loosen 3/4 turn and re torque to spec. The crush washers dont look crushed much. my .02c
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
u dont need colder imho with your mods, i would run OEM NGK plugs the center electrode porcelain should be chocolate brown to beige. They should last 60 k miles easily. And torque your plugs down to spec, loosen 3/4 turn and re torque to spec. The crush washers dont look crushed much. my .02c
I'm running colder because within a week here I'll be going down to a 2.7 Pulley.
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bratboy90
I'm running colder because within a week here I'll be going down to a 2.7 Pulley.
on e you dont need to go 1 step colder because e burns cooler then gas
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Old Jun 18, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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they look pretty good IMO. a little rich but nothing i would be concerned about.
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
u dont need colder imho with your mods, i would run OEM NGK plugs the center electrode porcelain should be chocolate brown to beige. They should last 60 k miles easily. And torque your plugs down to spec, loosen 3/4 turn and re torque to spec. The crush washers dont look crushed much. my .02c
This.

Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
on e you dont need to go 1 step colder because e burns cooler then gas
and this.
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bratboy90
I can live with rich. Lean is bad LOL
Huge misconception. Too rich can be just as dangerous as too lean.
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by noorjariri
Huge misconception. Too rich can be just as dangerous as too lean.
Yep.

Too rich can ruin sensors, plugs, cats, etc.
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
Yep.

Too rich can ruin sensors, plugs, cats, etc.
I'd rather ruin a $100 sensor than pop a cylinder. LOL

I'll try going back to stock heat range. See if it likes that better.
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 02:03 AM
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Running rich or lean can pop a cylinder

try the afr inbetween, your car will thank you
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