2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

stage 1 and 2 upgrades part #s

Old Nov 13, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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Does anyone have the part number for the belt in stage 2????
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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anybody else worried about 1 part missing, I dont feel our clutches will like this boost in performance too much
I would have liked to see a clutch upgrade even seperately
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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I hate to bring a bit of negativity into the post, and lord knows I hope it isn't true, but has anyone stopped to think that the reason we haven't had an official price release yet is because GM is gauging how much demand there will be for these upgrades? Think about it...We have part numbers but no price...did they forget to figure the cost when they put the packages together? I'm not sure how it works, but I know if I were making a product that I knew was going to sell fast, i would hype it a bit, just enough to get a ripple effect going, not release key things(like price), see how much demand developes, and if enough demand is there, up price to a grand or two, and make a bigger profit.

As I said, i hope this isn't the case, but let's make sure we evaluate all possible scenarios amist our collective anxiousness.
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kritter
I hate to bring a bit of negativity into the post, and lord knows I hope it isn't true, but has anyone stopped to think that the reason we haven't had an official price release yet is because GM is gauging how much demand there will be for these upgrades? Think about it...We have part numbers but no price...did they forget to figure the cost when they put the packages together? I'm not sure how it works, but I know if I were making a product that I knew was going to sell fast, i would hype it a bit, just enough to get a ripple effect going, not release key things(like price), see how much demand developes, and if enough demand is there, up price to a grand or two, and make a bigger profit.

As I said, i hope this isn't the case, but let's make sure we evaluate all possible scenarios amist our collective anxiousness.
I don't think you should be worreid at all. This is a very nromal practice with an upcoming new car. Take the Z06 for example, we knew most of the specs and had pics MONTHS before we had a price---there was lots of guessing but no price.

Hondas new Civic Si---we have specs/pics but no price yet. I agree it doesn't amke sense---they know the price and should tell us.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by avro206
I don't think you should be worreid at all. This is a very nromal practice with an upcoming new car. Take the Z06 for example, we knew most of the specs and had pics MONTHS before we had a price---there was lots of guessing but no price.

Hondas new Civic Si---we have specs/pics but no price yet. I agree it doesn't amke sense---they know the price and should tell us.
Horsepower #'s + Other Specs = Hype

Pictures of styling cues and teasers = Hype

Hype= The ability to overcharge because of demand.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
Horsepower #'s + Other Specs = Hype

Pictures of styling cues and teasers = Hype

Hype= The ability to overcharge because of demand.
So you think they stage one and too will be exspensive??

I don't think they will be bad at all---or that GM is trying to inflate prices because of perceived demand. They want in on this game and likely know that if they are not competitive--not many will buy.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by avro206
So you think they stage one and too will be exspensive??

I don't think they will be bad at all---or that GM is trying to inflate prices because of perceived demand. They want in on this game and likely know that if they are not competitive--not many will buy.
They will be, for us Canadians probably a little overpriced... and we've yet to hear if this HAS to be installed by the dealer to be warrantied or if we can do the install ourselves and not void the warranty.

That's probably where it will get real expensive.
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Old Nov 17, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by avro206
So you think they stage one and too will be exspensive??

I don't think they will be bad at all---or that GM is trying to inflate prices because of perceived demand. They want in on this game and likely know that if they are not competitive--not many will buy.
I wouldnt think so, I am sure they watched the Mopar stages and have a good idea what it should cost, remember stg1 from mopar is $399 for pcm and injectors....

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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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I think alot of the warranty issues will hinge on your relationship with your local dealer.
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 97cavie24ls
look at the pic

there is part #'s




stage 1 part # in this pic

Those injectors are really awesome, I will take 4 set of 4 ! Ahah )

It says that these two first stages are just the beginning, can't wait for stage 18 or so ... )
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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just a question...
if you buy the parts (injectors, belt, etc.) can you install it yourself and have a tech reflash? would it still be warrantied? if so, what if you add like cai, exhaust, headers, etc. how does that effect the warranty??
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Stage Gaines Directly From GM + Warranty

http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersource


It reads Released to Dealers 1st qt 2006 .Also reads Backed by GM .

I hope Hp Gaines are underated ..
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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I'm not saying for sure, but most likely, if you install the parts yourself the parts would be covered under warranty of defects. Such as an injector not working. The chances of labor being covered for anyone but a GM Tech install, nil. If any parts are found faulty from incorrect installation or abuse, coverage would be nil.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Gm really dropped the ball on the release of these kits! They should have gotten these kits to the dealers before Chrismas so Moms, dads, and girlfriends can buy them. Now there going to release them when everyone will be broke after the holidays.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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I agree, they did drop the ball.
Seems like GM has been doing that for a few years. (along with the other domestic car makers)
0% financing, employee pricing, this crappy red tag event.....anyway...different issue.
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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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You would think companys hurting as bad as GM,Chyrsler, and Ford would have sick deals on cars and performance parts.
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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 12:48 AM
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They're doing the best they can. A lot of work went into these kits. They went above and beyond to make sure 1 and 2 will be 50 state emissions legal.

To do that they have to send these kits to a 3rd party tester. I've heard Stage 2 is just getting finished with its testing procedure shortly. Then they have to worry about manufacturing to handle demand, then pricing and marketing.

Wheels are moving, just gotta have patience.

I hear Stage 3 is gonna be crazy. Cliffnotes i've overheard: head, cams, pistons, tiny pulley, other things, and NOT emissions safe.

I'd trust dealers to install 1 and 2 no problem, but not the supposed 3. That wont be for newbies...
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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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oooohhh, stage 3 sounds mean!!!! i may yet get a ss s/c if that's the case!!!
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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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so check these first 3 items on that site
http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersou...nce_parts.htm#
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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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ooooo....this just got interesting
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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick
Check out this thread:

http://www.******************/forums/...0&page=1&pp=10

It was posted by someone who was at SEMA, and he says he talked to one of the engineers who helped design the stage kits. It includes possible pricing information ($700 for stage 2), and other new, interesting, details. Sweet! Check it out!
Wishlist -It'd be nice to see the redline and cobalt ss forums combined, there is a lot of good information between both forums for the same platform car. It'd be nice to see all of it in one place. (no intent to start a war or anything)

Now for my question:
In the thread on the redline forums, its said "11. he also said the factory head is limited on flow to 270 horse so porting will be needed, I already talked to the extrude a hone rep, also sms can cnc port the head...." So for a NoS Kit, wouldn't a great deal of headwork need to be done, as well as a possible piston swap? It doesn't seem to me like the engine can handle a shot of NoS.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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I work at a Chey dealer in Murray Utah. I have talked to my parts people several times and they can't even get me hard numbers on the kits yet. I'm sure my numbers will be cheaper though being that I'm an employee lol. I'll surely holler when I hear anything
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Truely after reading like all million posts in this thread i definitely have to say that i think ill have to get my butt into an SS/SC real soon! All this great upgrade stuff and it still be under warranty that is just a great concept....

Finally GM getting things right its about time
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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If stage 1 is just fuel injectors, they need to label some fuel injectors for the 2.4L and call it stage 1. damn supercharger...
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnyNFullEffect
If stage 1 is just fuel injectors, they need to label some fuel injectors for the 2.4L and call it stage 1. damn supercharger...
Injectors and a reflash.
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