Yea well, I'm not going to debate much more until I see results from people who have them. Who knows what will happen...its only a guessing game at this point with logic.

 

ok let me take a crack at this

1. You are assuming that since it says 15000rpm max on the compressor map that is the max for even instantaneous. It's hard to believe that 14000rpm is max for continous and another 1k is for instant. But regardless I will discuss this matter in detail with the engineers at lysholm.

2. I have driven both the turbo cobalt and Twin Screw each for 1-2 weeks and I must say they were very close in power. On top of this the turbo cobalt had a full 3" exhaust with no cat. I even drove the turbo cobalt at the track with slicks and it was a pain to get boost off the line, with the twin screw it just there all the time. Even when you are just driving on the road it so smooth when push from low rpms.

We encourage threads like this as we want to develop products that keep our customers 100% satisfied even if it means making the damn blowers ourselves with forged rotors and quality bearings.

We will know more this week as two of the kits should be installed on vehicles with proper mods.

 

I am waiting for that to but i want to see how it will hold up down the road, and what kind of tuning problems people will run into

i was wondering about different rotors, i was reading up and there are some kb blowers that spin to 20k rpms. The difference in constant and instant for a m62 is 2k but those rotors are not spin as close together either so i could only go off of what they gave me.

 

If you're all really wanting 300whp. Take the head off and get it fully ported. A ported head with all the boltons should yield 300whp with the stock eaton and it doesn't cost 3K.

 

yep what i have been saying for a while im just waiting for my piston's to blow so i have a reason to get it ported.

 

not everyone wants 300whp. some people do like the idea of reliability, and cooler operating temperatures.

 

man we've been down this road.. ur way costs like $300 less and is much less reliable with a butt load more heat and ur blower aint gonna like u for very long

 

very true

the heat is a big deal with it that is the best the ts has to offer, as far as realiablity we have yet to see that the point of this thread was to open some people's eyes and let them know the ts is great but not a end all solution

 

i completely agree. i aint buying the TS, i cant even afford another transmission mount

i want to see the TS at a safe RPM with supporting mods and see how it performs

its just Onyxd04Redline keeps sayin u can make 300whp on the stock blower for less than 3k when to do it requires head work, meth, every supporting mod in existance, WAY overspinning the blower, and a pretty radical tune...for like $2700 which isnt much less than the $3000 for this kit... not to smart for a daily driver

i feel once the kits start reaching peoples hands we will get a real idea of the performance of these blowers... and rebel def should to whomever and get info on max rpm of the blower and see about upgraded bearings and rotors and what not

 

good post could not agree with it more, i just don't want to see people think that this could be safe and you sieze the blower spinning it to hard

 

and whats 300whp??? dynojet, mustang dyno, inflated dyno?, dyno that gives u 240whp stock? dyno that gives u 190whp stock?

too much credit is given to the numbers... gains are what count... take two identical cars with identical tunes.. on the same exact dyno right after the other.. will put down the same power +/- 3 hp... all cars are a little bit different.. but little bit is just a little bit...(ie: how well it was broken in, how hard it is beat on on a daily basis, etc)

i get upset when some1 says they got 300 or 290whp with X mods... too bad their stock car dynoed at like 240.. and ill bet dollars to donuts they aint got no more power than my stock car that dynoed at 215 and with the same mods dynoed 265whp

end rant

 

you do not need to overspin the m62 to make 300+whp.

just have to be creative in how you do it.

remember kids, you can't race dyno numbers.

 

Yeah that's what track times are for so i am intrested to see what the twinscrew does that should be its selling point.

 

good good!!

 

yeah you can you just have to go to the honda forums

 

not many people on this site have come to realize the value of a head and cam job yet..good advice^^^^

 

tru tru. then whats to say this blower aint gonna put out a lot more power with a head and cam job???

 

Thats because there are barely any opitons for us it sucks lol

thats is what i would like to see is a good head and cams it would be intersting to see what could be had with that combo

 

i woudlnt mind getting my head ported, the stock cams are staying in though.....

 

I don't know enough about FI to answer that honesly,all I know is what it did for me,just ask some of the stock ss/sc guys in the northweast section.LOL

 

How am i now being an ass? Because i posted relevant info?


How is it less reliable?

If you're stock.. I say get the TS or spend the extra money and get a turbo kit. If you're modded to hell like 90% of guys on this forum. Get the Ported head.

 

LOL,the whole 2.0>cam thing did not work out.

 

yea we have i dont post as much so i usually remember what i post in and what about

when totaling all the supporting mods up that you need to get ur power output ur almost touchin $3000

 

yeah there are a few people running hks 272 cams with better success

im a little over 3k but i got some parts used and i have everything besides meth and piston's and i mean everything.

 

I remembered that post after i posted and edited my comment.

The 272 cams use a 110LSA which is too low for our application. You don't want the cams to lope because that just bleeds off boost.