Twincharge goes racing!
We went through this in 3800 market. When we started, people were experiencing piston failures left and right making less than 300whp. I had a couple fail myself making about 350whp. A few years later, we put a stock bottom end in the 8.60s at just shy of 160mph. Sure the car is significantly lighter than stock, but it also puts down 750 whp on the stock bottom end. Now we are facing the same situations in the LSJ market. Most people think that their motor will blow up if they make 400whp, and many do fail which leads people to believe that they need a built motor. What they really need is an adequate fuel system, a decent tune, and most important- a reasonable sense of responsibility when driving their car.
I think what you really meant to say is that the larger turbo will not carry the effeciency of the smaller turbo unless you are pushing it above the 500whp mark.
We went through this in 3800 market. When we started, people were experiencing piston failures left and right making less than 300whp. I had a couple fail myself making about 350whp. A few years later, we put a stock bottom end in the 8.60s at just shy of 160mph. Sure the car is significantly lighter than stock, but it also puts down 750 whp on the stock bottom end. Now we are facing the same situations in the LSJ market. Most people think that their motor will blow up if they make 400whp, and many do fail which leads people to believe that they need a built motor. What they really need is an adequate fuel system, a decent tune, and most important- a reasonable sense of responsibility when driving their car.
This is apparently sumthing that ZZP has a hard time doing, I have a ZZP stg 2 tune on my car and so does a friend here in texas. My friend got lucky enough to get a couple of free dyno pulls at a very well known tuning shop over the weekend (I have videos) and ZZP's claim of 250whp on stg 2 with exhaust is a Crock! his car made less power than stock! None the less the tuning shop is going to be receiving my car in the near future for a real tune and I will with no doubt get the numbers that ZZP advertises but cant produce themselves.
l8r,
PD
This is apparently sumthing that ZZP has a hard time doing, I have a ZZP stg 2 tune on my car and so does a friend here in texas. My friend got lucky enough to get a couple of free dyno pulls at a very well known tuning shop over the weekend (I have videos) and ZZP's claim of 250whp on stg 2 with exhaust is a Crock! his car made less power than stock! None the less the tuning shop is going to be receiving my car in the near future for a real tune and I will with no doubt get the numbers that ZZP advertises but cant produce themselves.
l8r,
PD
l8r,
PD
We do dyno a lot of cars with a failed IC pump, or intermittent alternator issue, or MAF issue that causes issues many times blamed on the tune.
Im sorry but your first statement makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, the turbo wont make more power unless your making more power?
I think what you really meant to say is that the larger turbo will not carry the effeciency of the smaller turbo unless you are pushing it above the 500whp mark.
I think what you really meant to say is that the larger turbo will not carry the effeciency of the smaller turbo unless you are pushing it above the 500whp mark.
I am quite upset to see such dismal numbers from my friends car, but in all fairness, I will show every aspect of what occurs on my car over the next couple weeks, and it will be ZZP's stage 2 tune as my base pull and then the final numbers of the custom tune and I will have them compared side by side
If any changes are made to the car (i.e. alternator, IC pump, anything) then I will personally reflash the ZZP tune and have them rerun the baseline and start tuning again. so that everything remains fair.
the tuner will not be making this an overly aggressive tune either, the car is to retain its driveability.
I do think that you all make great products (I have had experience with enough of them to know now), I just dont think the canned tune is worth a damn after seeing this
If any changes are made to the car (i.e. alternator, IC pump, anything) then I will personally reflash the ZZP tune and have them rerun the baseline and start tuning again. so that everything remains fair.
the tuner will not be making this an overly aggressive tune either, the car is to retain its driveability.
I do think that you all make great products (I have had experience with enough of them to know now), I just dont think the canned tune is worth a damn after seeing this
I am quite upset to see such dismal numbers from my friends car, but in all fairness, I will show every aspect of what occurs on my car over the next couple weeks, and it will be ZZP's stage 2 tune as my base pull and then the final numbers of the custom tune and I will have them compared side by side
If any changes are made to the car (i.e. alternator, IC pump, anything) then I will personally reflash the ZZP tune and have them rerun the baseline and start tuning again. so that everything remains fair.
the tuner will not be making this an overly aggressive tune either, the car is to retain its driveability.
I do think that you all make great products (I have had experience with enough of them to know now), I just dont think the canned tune is worth a damn after seeing this
If any changes are made to the car (i.e. alternator, IC pump, anything) then I will personally reflash the ZZP tune and have them rerun the baseline and start tuning again. so that everything remains fair.
the tuner will not be making this an overly aggressive tune either, the car is to retain its driveability.
I do think that you all make great products (I have had experience with enough of them to know now), I just dont think the canned tune is worth a damn after seeing this
Sorry to bring this from the dead but I felt that question needed to be answered. Your car is amazing btw. Twincharging is amazing I wish my setup allowed me to do it!
Spring blockers or "spring spacers" can be gotten at any advance auto parts store. Go in and ask where their "spring spacers" are. They are essentially just black rubber pieces that go in between your springs and compress them to help prevent squat at the line. Very cheap there btw.
Sorry to bring this from the dead but I felt that question needed to be answered. Your car is amazing btw. Twincharging is amazing I wish my setup allowed me to do it!
Sorry to bring this from the dead but I felt that question needed to be answered. Your car is amazing btw. Twincharging is amazing I wish my setup allowed me to do it!
I'm assuming (until I see otherwise) that's what the op was talking about. They are basically blocking off the spring to eliminate squat. Used it on my car with drs not terrible.
That's odd. They are used to "jack" big trucks up etc. How many runs at the track did you get with them on? You did only use them at the track, right?
Do you have adjustable struts? I have tockico illumina struts and witht he most "aggressive" setting it helps stabalize that bounces some may get.
Do you have adjustable struts? I have tockico illumina struts and witht he most "aggressive" setting it helps stabalize that bounces some may get.
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