Not sure how you will be able to take the rest of that bolt out without having to take the head out at least..

 

Will I NEED to replace that bolt? It would be a pain to do if so. I would like to just go without it if possible. Someone tell me what you think about leaving it the way it is, replace the valve cover, oil change and spark plug change...or....take of the head and replace that bolt?

 

If something comes out of an engine, I don't see how it would NOT have to be replaced. If you're down for a rebuild then by all means take it around the block a few times.

 

I know that was a crazy question, but the chain guide is still on. You know how something's need bolts or screws but they don't don't or they can do without them.....you know what I'm saying? I'm just trying to save time and money that I don't have....until the wifey get her new job

 

Well the bolt is there for a reason. It MIGHT be good for a short time but I wouldn't chance it. I would rather replace a bolt and some gaskets rather than internals, especially over something that small.

 

Replacing that.....I would not be able to do that. Messing with the head and all of the **** on it...I have some tools in my garage but nothing for that....I would have to mess with the timing....

 

It is the top bolt for the black guide in the front of the motor. The bolt end can be removed through the inspection port in the cylinder head by a good tech or machinist, its way easier to do with the head off. But I would not take the head off.
FIRST
You need new bolts guides chain cam and crank gears and a gasket would be best. Buy the whole kit from CED. Buy a new rocker cover ( 110 bux or so comes with a new gasket and bolts etc. Dont buy used, you dont know whats lurking in the upper chamber oil seperators.

Normally that pesky bolt falls down and sits in a crevice by the crank pulley. You got unlucky.
get the broken bolt out first. that may wind out by hand ( not likely) will drill out and ez out the bolt ( takes a good man or you screw up the head.

THEN
drop the motor down by removining the passnger side top motor mount. remove crank pulley bolt, crank pulley front cover, and replace the entire front chain assembly with gears, oiler, guides etc. USE A TORQUE WRENCH. INCH POUNDS.

Its about a 6 hour job maybe 8 including removing the broken bolt. Talk to Mr.Belevdere on here about buying two of his trick timing chain guide bolts.

Head was removed for this job I wanted to check the valves.



this is probably where it came from. If it came from the lower bolt for the black guide bonus, thats easier to get to.

good luck

 

That is ****** spot on....I'm glad someone can shine more light on this. That is exactly where the bolt came from!

That seems like of a lot of **** to do just to replace that bold....and on top of that, I don't have a lift to do this....at least not in my garage.

 

How many people have experienced this? Is there a recall for this as well?

 

My car had problems with that same bolt, it actually backed out but stayed in place and rattled like a bad lifter. When I pulled the head for a piston swap I helicoiled the hole to eliminate the issue in the future. But as Powell posted, you need to remove the front timing cover and all the timing gear to at least attempt to replace that bolt. If it broke off and didn't damage the threads, put a new one in with loc-tite on it and done... Odds are it wobbled around in there and ruined the threads.

Can be easily done on the ground if you have some decent tools, just jack the car way up and pull the right front wheel. If you really want space you can remove the motor mount and stuff up top but i've done them without taking much else out than the front cover. As John mentioned, it will be a time consuming job and if you aren't familiar with this type of work, i'd have a professional do it for you.

 

you dont need a lift to do it, I didnt. Taking the head off is more work but makes it easier to fix the broken bolt issue.

you cant drive without this fixed the engine will go BOOM!. It is a case of do it right or park it, sad to say.

 

^^^^ Ital knows.

 

Thanks for the info! where can i buy this Rocker cover at?


Thank you sir for this good info as well

 

What do I need in order to remove this?

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10mm allen wrench. Usually need another wrench or pipe for added leverage. It will be on there pretty good.

 

The Allen wrench socket might work good.

 

Not a lot of room to get in there though. Might work, depends on what exact tools you have.

 

Use a 10mm allen wrench or similar. You do not HAVE to pull the head to fix this, but it will be much easier.

Depends on what kind of tools you have

 

Ok, so I have a 10mm Allen wrench socket and I pull off the bolt on the side of the head to access the bolt....
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So here is the piece of the bolt that is still in there. Now can someone help me to figure out how to get this out? ItalianJoe1....any suggestions? Powell Race Parts??? Or anyone with this problem?

 

If you pull the front cover and remove the guide you can try to grab what's left of the bolt through the hole, but the odds of that working well are very slim. I'd suggest just pulling the head and doing it right at this point. I know it sucks, but it's not in a place you can access easily to begin with, and if you have any issues or drop any parts in the oil pan, you're only going to do more damage.

 

How do I remove the guide? I know there is one bolt on top and another at the bottom, but the top bolt is the problem.

 

Thats what i'm saying, if you can get the guide off the broken piece of the bolt then remove it. If you cannot, you may have to break the guide to remove it without lifting off the head. That's going to give you a very high percentage chance of dropping pieces of it into the oil pan... Just pull the head at this point. I know it sucks but it's the only right way to do it and to actually repair the bolt problem. Even if you get the upper guide bolt out, the threads are probably damaged and you can't repair that in the car, there's just no room.

If you already have the front cover off, just pull the intake/exhaust manifolds and timing chain and lift the head off, not really a ton of work on these cars.

 

If I take the chain off, will I have to set the timing on it?

 

Yes. Save your money get a tech to fix it. DIY will end
Up being a massive money pit with sad results

 

yes you do