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Old 08-23-2014, 07:02 PM
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That would be a good option, I forgot those are available on forums like these. I only need the exhaust cam, I would like to the keep the cam-driven power steering pump setup on the Saab.
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Old 08-23-2014, 07:49 PM
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One thing I don't understand about this thread is why a normal crankshaft variation relearn procedure doesn't solve the timing problem. Aren't all crankshafts clocked differently?
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Old 08-23-2014, 08:11 PM
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One thing I don't understand about this thread is why a normal crankshaft variation relearn procedure doesn't solve the timing problem. Aren't all crankshafts clocked differently?
CASE learn does not tell the car to look for a different clock position of the wheel. It just allows for very fine variations in the frequency pattern to be learned, to improve knock resolution. The PCM still assumes that the blank teeth are at a given position on the crank, so if you change the combo it doesn't work.
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere View Post
put stock lsj cams in it
Another option I'm looking at is getting an LE5 head, I can pull one of those for cheap. Then I have the added bonus of cam phasers and the correct 2 cams sensors.

This is especially a good deal when you consider the cost of the LSJ cam AND the cam sensor assembly.

Only downside is I'm no sure if it uses the sodium-filled exhaust valves...
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Old 08-23-2014, 09:47 PM
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the lsj pcm dose not have that capability for vvt
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Old 08-23-2014, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere View Post
the lsj pcm dose not have that capability for vvt
I didn't specify, I meant using the LE5 ECM. Those seem to be a lot cheaper than LSJ PCMs, and according to the original post, more tunable. I guess it would then just be a matter of changing the hex value and crank sensor. Can that timing value be changed with HP Tuners, or how is that done? This would be easier for me, because I can then use an original matching BCM with the LE5 ECM.
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Old 08-24-2014, 09:23 AM
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it could be but getting hpt to do it is another thing if your dead set on using the le5 pcm them get your relucter reclocked or buy a gen2 relucter used
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Old 08-24-2014, 10:53 AM
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ok,

What car do you have?

what are you looking to do?
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:21 PM
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Let's just pretend it's a sand rail. My only requirements are to have an instrument cluster running on a class II bus (don't ask). This involves a Saturn BCM up to 2007, which used LSJ, LE5, or L61 ECMs. I picked up a LNF engine for a good deal, but I'm having second thoughts about doing anything with that because of it's ECM and I'll never be able to get it to work with a 2007 BCM.

I can get such a good deal on a Saab 2.0L turbo engine and trans and a whole LE5 engine for parts and its harness and ECM, for less than I paid for the LNF. So maybe I'll sell my LNF.

Anyone ever notice how monstrous the Saab axles are? They have got to be bigger than LNF axles. They're like the same size as Corvette.

I have this week off, so I'm eager to hit up all the pick 'n pulls.

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Ok so what ever happened to this? What program were you using to change this value? INCA? Do you still have this capability? Trying to put an lsj pcm into an 06 L61 Ion.
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I bought an le5 crank position sensor, what are the specs on the spacer for the lsj block? I am using a saab b207, I ASSume its still pertinent to this thread.

will this work?
http://www.ottperformance.com/store/...93&idcategory=
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Guy is MIA and probably wont ever comeback. Just stick with whatever ecu matches your crank reluctor.
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"And this screenshot is from something you can consider the holy grail of tuning"

I ******* hate people that brag about **** & then don't deliver. Like just tell us what program you used; what's the big ******* secret.
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I think its etas inca, the oem tuning software.
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I think its etas inca, the oem tuning software.
Can confirm, it is INCA. Data snippet he had shown was from a FRM file. Like I have mentioned in previous posts on here, life is really easy when you have the right equipment.
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You work for an oem?
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You work for an oem?
OEM Powersports, not OEM automotive. Use Bosch automotive ECM's though.
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I just started getting to play with inca
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