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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Well a 50 shot is pretty safe. GM uses a dry 50 shot in their stage 3 package.

I'm going with a 25 or 35 dry shot to help with cooling.



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i think i may go with a 35 shot just to be extra safe
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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125hp 2 stage system FTW hehe
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by xCobalt05x
yep keep reading, we covered that already, lol

you got the IDRTWTS = I Dont Read The Whole Thread Syndrom
i just post in bewteen phone calls. so i may have had the answer before anyone else. but got a call. so the post was delayed a bit
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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i wud use a nitrous kit..........for purge. other than that, more than likely no, unless i wanted a quick lil pick me up. i really don't see the effects of nitrous being good to your engine. Cryo-2 on the other hand, works very nicely from the dyno sheets i've seen, and track slips with the before and afters.
X2, but if you use NOS don't go over 50 shot, my friend had a 100 shot on his Cavy and melted his head.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SSCobalt~SSZ24
ur a smart man rep +1

i think i may go with a 35 shot just to be extra safe
Thank you sir. +rep returned.

A 25 or 35 shot would be perfect for us. That will take care of cooling problems and add a little performance.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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i have a few things to say to the nay-sayers of nitrous.

1. Nitrous is the best bang for buck period.
2. If you think it is cheating because it runs out....wtf you have to fill up your gas tank too do you not?
3. I bet 90% of you saying nitrous is bad or whatever have no idea how it works. IF you come back saying, "it super cools the air and makes it more dense" you are an idiot. That is where like 2% of the power increase from nitrous comes from.


Nitrous can be just as good as turbo or supercharger if done right and just as safe. It's all about supporting mods and getting the tune right. Nitrous is great. Personally, i like the steady increase in power of a centrifugal blower and i will still have a centri even when i build my motor and am aiming for somewhere in the 700's. It would be easier to reach my goals with a turbo, but i PERSONALLY would rather have a centri, which is why i have no problem with people saying they don't like nitrous, but don't say it is bad or it is dangerous because odds are you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
Thank you sir. +rep returned.

A 25 or 35 shot would be perfect for us. That will take care of cooling problems and add a little performance.

i agree im not sure if i want a 25 or 35 shot hmmm
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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this is my nitrous set up right here







DynoTune Nitrous Systems Perform!!!


Checkout a video of a standard wet system DynoTune Wet Kit 150HP shot

The DynoTune Double-Shot Nitrous system combines a Wet and Dry nitrous kit for the ultimate in system flexiblity. Up to 300HP at the flip of a switch. This kit is made for EFI engines with MAF (Mass Air Flow) sensors.

It comes with everything to install and is fully adjustable up to 150hp on the wet stage and up to an additional 150HP on the Dry stage.
Dry nitrous systems inject nitrous oxide in front of the MAF sensor so when the cool nitrous passes the sensor it tricks the sensor into adding additonal fuel, this extra fuel along with the nitrous oxide make the addtional power.

The Wet nitrous system mounts the nozzle in fron t of the throttle body so it does not inject through the sensor! The extra fuel is taken from the fuel rail and injected into the throttle body with the nitrous oxide. This mixture will be carried into each cyl and will make more power.

The system comes with a Digital two stage TPS/RPM window switch with Multi gear lockout controller.

This controller will turn on and off your nitrous system and control both stages based on RPM. It also have multi-gear lockout which will allow standard transmission cars to fully program what gear and rpm they want the stage to come on at. An example would be the following. Come off the line in first using the first stage dry shot. in first gear at 3000 rpms the dry shot turns on, at 6000 rpms the dry shot shuts off. Now you shift into second, the dry shot turns on again and now the wet shot turns on as well, both shut off at 6000 rpms, etc...

Both stages are completely programmable independently.

Link to TPS/RPM two stage controller

The bonus is that it has a built in Throttle position electronic switch! Fully adjustable and works with fly by wire TPS switches as wel..

The following parts are included:
--10lb bottle with high flow valve


--4AN stainless bottle nut & Teflon washer


--Stainless quick connect Bottle brackets and hardware


--16 foot braided stainless feed line, blue fittings


--High Flow Nitrous(qty2) and Fuel solenoids


--Solenoid mounting brackets


--2 foot Braided stainless Nitrous(qty2) and Fuel feed lines, red and blue fittings


--Braided stainless line for Fuel rail test port installation, red fitting


--4&6cyl kits---Jets for 35, 50 and 75HP (Wet stage) --4&6cyl Kits---Jets for 25, 35 and 50HP (Dry stage)
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--High flow Wet Nozzle "Chrome"

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--Lighted arming switchs, relays, wire and wire harness, fuse, crimp terminals etc..


--Our 22 page Nitrous installation and tuning book is included! Full pictures and detailed installation instructions for the DynoTune Double-Shot system.

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
Thank you sir. +rep returned.

A 25 or 35 shot would be perfect for us. That will take care of cooling problems and add a little performance.
Just get a wet kit and do a 50-60 shot. I would stay away from dry, its bad news. Dry shots increase the probability of running lean on the bottle and having problems. Use a wet shot, and all other things stay the same, you just add enough fuel to burn with the amount of nitrous you are using.
I have no problem saying I have NOS in my car, its an actual holley kit. If people say that because of a movie, so what? I'm sure the only people who complain about it are the ones who think nitrous is gonna blow up your car too.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper33884
X2, but if you use NOS don't go over 50 shot, my friend had a 100 shot on his Cavy and melted his head.
he was probably running in a lean condition.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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hey guys what exactly does +rep someone do? how do you check your rep?
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
Just get a wet kit and do a 50-60 shot. I would stay away from dry, its bad news. Dry shots increase the probability of running lean on the bottle and having problems. Use a wet shot, and all other things stay the same, you just add enough fuel to burn with the amount of nitrous you are using.
I have no problem saying I have NOS in my car, its an actual holley kit. If people say that because of a movie, so what? I'm sure the only people who complain about it are the ones who think nitrous is gonna blow up your car too.
I was thinking about a wet 50 shot. GM stage 3 is dry 50 shot so GM must know something.

I was also thinking about a 25 shot sprayed before the MAF so there wouldn't be a need for tuning but I'm just going to go 25 or 35 dry shot with a new tune. I think I would be happier with a 35.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
I was thinking about a wet 50 shot. GM stage 3 is dry 50 shot so GM must know something.

I was also thinking about a 25 shot sprayed before the MAF so there wouldn't be a need for tuning but I'm just going to go 25 or 35 dry shot with a new tune. I think I would be happier with a 35.
GM uses a dry because the stage 3 computer has a built in controller for the shot, meaning it can retard timing and increase injector flow for the nitrous. I am not going to use a stage 3 PCM, its Miami, I need my a/c. Wet shot just is much safer and more consistent. I wouldn't spray before the MAF, thats not a good idea. The computer reads temperature of the maf sensor, not as ambient temps but it heats the wire in the maf to a certain temp and measures how much energy it takes to keep it hot and calculates the airflow over it. Spraying freezing nitrous over it would cause problems. You have to tune for a dry shot, you can't expect the car to do it for you.

Originally Posted by xCobalt05x
he was probably running in a lean condition.
I still saw a LSJ low pistons from a 100 shot, I'd have to advise against it on a stock internals car. I won't exceed a 60 shot until the car gets built.

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
GM uses a dry because the stage 3 computer has a built in controller for the shot, meaning it can retard timing and increase injector flow for the nitrous. I am not going to use a stage 3 PCM, its Miami, I need my a/c. Wet shot just is much safer and more consistent. I wouldn't spray before the MAF, thats not a good idea. The computer reads temperature of the maf sensor, not as ambient temps but it heats the wire in the maf to a certain temp and measures how much energy it takes to keep it hot and calculates the airflow over it. Spraying freezing nitrous over it would cause problems. You have to tune for a dry shot, you can't expect the car to do it for you.



I still saw a LSJ low pistons from a 100 shot, I'd have to advise against it on a stock internals car. I won't exceed a 60 shot until the car gets built.
well, thank god im not stock, i have ARP head studs and a cometic head gasket, im good to go, lol
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Who has a decently priced wet 50 shot kit? just curious. Thanks for all the info BTW. +rep.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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I believe dynotune has the best priced kits if i remember.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by xCobalt05x
well, thank god im not stock, i have ARP head studs and a cometic head gasket, im good to go, lol
Well, he cracked one or two pistons, so I don't know if just the head gasket and studs are gonna be enough, but you are not boosting so there is a lot less stress on your car to begin with.

Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
Who has a decently priced wet 50 shot kit? just curious. Thanks for all the info BTW. +rep.
Get one used. I see them for $350 or so all the time. Holley brand, good stuff.

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
Well, he cracked one or two pistons, so I don't know if just the head gasket and studs are gonna be enough, but you are not boosting so there is a lot less stress on your car to begin with.



Get one used. I see them for $350 or so all the time. Holley brand, good stuff.
um read my sig bro, lol. wiseco forged 8.9:1 pistons, Egale forged Rods, Ferrea valves and spring kit w/ titanium retainers. 3 angle valve job on the head, honde the cylinders, lol my list goes on and on, i have a few other mods but there isnt enough room in the sig to put the rest

Also dyno tune sells 50 shot systems brand new for 269
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
I believe dynotune has the best priced kits if i remember.
Thank you.

Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
Get one used. I see them for $350 or so all the time. Holley brand, good stuff.
..and thank you.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by xCobalt05x
um read my sig bro, lol. wiseco forged 8.9:1 pistons, Egale forged Rods, Ferrea valves and spring kit w/ titanium retainers. 3 angle valve job on the head, honde the cylinders, lol my list goes on and on, i have a few other mods but there isnt enough room in the sig to put the rest

Also dyno tune sells 50 shot systems brand new for 269
Sorry, i'm a little busy, didn't read the sig. You'll be fine then.

Dyno tune wet systems are only $269? No, thats a dry shot. I'm talking about wet kits, which are closer to $400+ anywhere i've seen them. I bought my holley wet kit for $300 with an almost full bottle, and it has some extra jets, an extra dry nozzle and such. There are deals out there if you look and have paitence.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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nitrous kits are not sold in "shots"
they come with jets, jets allow you to adjust the horsepower "shot"

the only limits are this.

the solenoids.
the amount of jets you have
and your motor.
when all of these have been surpassed in terms of supporting the power that you want, you need to upgrade the feed line itself.
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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nitrous kits are not sold in "shots"
they come with jets, jets allow you to adjust the horsepower "shot"

the only limits are this.

the solenoids.
the amount of jets you have
and your motor.
when all of these have been surpassed in terms of supporting the power that you want, you need to upgrade the feed line itself.
yep a 4an feed line is perfect for your 25-50hp shots system

the 6an feed line would be for the people wanting to go over 150hp nitrous systems
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Just found this wet kit for $364.87 shipped.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nitro...spagenameZWDVW

DynoTune kit is $389.00 plus shipping

http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idproduct=100

Which one would you guys go with?
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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the ebay kit dont look that bad
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