There are alot of different variables that go into making that possible but i don't think you would see close to 300 at 15 psi, 20 psi might make it happen.

 

ditto, it's gonna take to much to turn this blower on our little 2.0

 

we shall see. i'm sure someone will get one when it comes out.

 

hmmm

 

How about clearance in the engine bay? How much larger will this blower be the the tvs? What will have to be modified just to make it fit? You should not make it seem so easy to do, it takes a lot of work and design to make that happen, not just a off the shelf blower and hoping it works. Im not trying to be negative but those issue's should be addressed.

 

i e-mailed dustin asking the specs of the s/c. i'm sure its the same size as the lysholm 1600ax, only difference really are bearings and the rotor material i would asume, hence why the whipples are usually capable of higher rpm and have a better efficiency then the lysholm units. but i'd assume the size would be the same. i'm not saying it will be a direct fit, i know some work will need to be done to get it to fit, but its a possibility of another option. alot of people were sayin when RAW came out with the lysholm 1200ax that it should have been bigger, now that theres a bigger one coming available there is some criticism. 2.0L engine is a 2.0L engine, i know the k20 engine is a more efficient engine and it has no problem spinning the lysholm 1600ax, and it produces great power, sure the head on the k20 out flows an even ported lsj head, but its still a 2.0L engine and it is capable of spinning the 1.6L s/c, and that engine at 15psi is capable of pushing over 400hp. thats why i'd assume, granted there are variables such as manifold and cylinder head flow, that 15psi can achieve damn near if not over the 300whp mark, with supporting boltons, I/E/H/ and fuel.

heres the dimension spec sheet of the lysholm 1600ax http://www.opcon.se/www/files/lyshol...ngs/1600AX.pdf

 

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power used to turn the blower vs power gained at XX psi.

 

I will do a little measuring when i get home and have the time to compare this to the tvs

 

coo i couldnt find the measurements of the tvs. if the whipple's size is the same as the lysholm then it appears to be significantly wider then the 1.2L lysholm.

 

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Guys at the eaton booth at SEMA said they did tests of the R1320 to 22,000 rpm, but they wouldn't recommend running it past 20,000 for long periods of time. So I'd say continuous rpm limit 20,000, short burst 22,000.

 

Thats true but its more like 18k continous, trust me

Thats what could be the problem i am talking about becuase you know what is behind the s/c don't you?

 

yeah ur talkin bout the intercooler plate right? thats why RAW had to design a different one.

 

Im wondering about clearance by the fuel rail.

 

ahh didnt even think about that. good point.

 

Uh, I think I'll trust one of the designers of the blower itself. The guy I was talking to was the one who designed the silencer holes on the 5th gen heaton. He definitely knew his ****.

Pretty sick though, he said the M90 without the silencer holes, put 160 db out of the outlet!!! RIDICULOUS BLOWER WHINE!!!

 

Have you seen the email from eaton about its performance mapping? Oh wait to my knowledge i am the only person that does not work for eaton with a copy.

That and the map sensor, tb fitment. I just have a lot of questions about it. If it worked i would ditch the tvs in a heart beat i just have reservations about this.

 

dont be so sure..

 

I knew someone else with a tvs had to of seen it. I would not say it if it was not unfounded, i have tested it to

 

ha ha good to hear. well only time will tell. just a few more months. i'll see if i can get em to cut some rotors for me faster, so i can piece together something test fit. the whole 9, if not then hell i'll sell the unit. i'm sure whipple would be whilling to help in designing the kit, they only live 45min to an hour away from me.

oh yeah and once i get it i'll be looking for a return style fuel system, hint hint nudge nudge wink wink. haha.

 

Is this just me or does this seem like the begining stages of the Twin Screw kit all over again...? History has a funny way of repeating itself..

 

I hear ya

 

who knows, i doubt it cuz one whipple is in the states, so no long waits for shipping the units. and hopefully they can help in the designing of the bracket or point people in the right direction to get the stuff done. whipple offer drive snoutes which was rebels biggest problem, so the drive snoute and head unit would be whipple. the point is that they are developing the 1.6L if it fits the cobalt / redline then so be it if not then oh well. its another possibility.

 

I'm pretty much sold on the tvs. I mean, it's like one of the most affordable upgrades and it puts out really healthy numbers.

Now I'm all for more options, but I just doubt that this 1.6L whipple will be able to compare. I'd bet on it being a bit pricier with slightly less number performance wise.

The TVS is the NEWEST technology and it seems as though it is head and shoulders above the old stuff.