2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Okay wtf is GDS ?
Its GDS



GDS
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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I wonder if ZZP would sell that beauty
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 06:30 PM
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GDS
Typical CSS.Net answer lol
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 06:45 PM
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G.D.S.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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uh NO and that is some disgusting music

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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
uh NO

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Yes I know....sorry I have strange humor....
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 06:53 PM
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uh NO and that is some disgusting music

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Music? Good Sir you are too kind.

The 1st or 2nd comment under the video states that it makes the listener want to kill people. I would agree.....
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 12:42 AM
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well we have all been told for years that the stock manifold was never the problem

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its kinda hard to starve when the manifold is under pressure

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yeah, I think starve is the right word, more flow right. cause even though its under pressure, the air still needs to flow, but with the short distance, its gonna want to flow straight into 2 and 3, and will flow out to 1 and 4 when the valves on 2 and 3 are closed causeing the air to kinda bounce back and forth in the mani and causing alot of turblance,

Pressurized or not, the best was to get air to flow good is nice long runners with very easy curves. I'm not saying I'm an expert, but just throwing in my two sense on how I see it working. Still nice to see someone is finally trying to make a different manifold for the lsj though
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SunburstSS
Okay wtf is GDS ?
google dat ****
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by brian.olsson
yeah, I think starve is the right word, more flow right. cause even though its under pressure, the air still needs to flow, but with the short distance, its gonna want to flow straight into 2 and 3, and will flow out to 1 and 4 when the valves on 2 and 3 are closed causeing the air to kinda bounce back and forth in the mani and causing alot of turblance,

Pressurized or not, the best was to get air to flow good is nice long runners with very easy curves. I'm not saying I'm an expert, but just throwing in my two sense on how I see it working. Still nice to see someone is finally trying to make a different manifold for the lsj though
they can try all they want I doubt they will do better

when the manifold is under pressure air dosent flow until a valve is open then all the pressure shifts to that port and so on

GDS

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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by brian.olsson
google dat ****
no your way wrong

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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
no your way wrong

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bwahahah, I know
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 12:54 AM
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props to zzp for trying, there the only company whose actually trying to help the m62 guys lol
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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props to zzp for trying, there the only company whose actually trying to help the m62 guys lol
it wasent just for the m62 people more then 1 blower fits the car

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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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What would it take to throw on an mp62? Off topic I know.
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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Glad to see them still trying new things..
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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What would it take to throw on an mp62? Off topic I know.
I THINK a custom adaptor plate. And might have to get a new snout thats the right length
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 1fastSSBalt
Didn't realize what section it was in. I clicked on the thread link from the main page.

What in the world does GDS stand for?
Geriatric Depression Scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Geriatric Depression Scale (GDS) is a 30-item self-report assessment used to identify depression in the elderly. The scale was first developed in 1982 by J.A. Yesavage and others.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 09:22 AM
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Geriatric Depression Scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Geriatric Depression Scale (GDS) is a 30-item self-report assessment used to identify depression in the elderly. The scale was first developed in 1982 by J.A. Yesavage and others.
nope your way way way way way way off

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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 10:25 AM
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It's nice to see ZZP still producing/testing new parts for the LSJ crowd, but the intake side of the engine is really not the problem....

A nice exhaust ported head & cams is a far better upgrade IMO.
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
It's nice to see ZZP still producing/testing new parts for the LSJ crowd, but the intake side of the engine is really not the problem....

A nice exhaust ported head & cams is a far better upgrade IMO.
i hope zzp reads this lol
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowsupercharged06
i hope zzp reads this lol
There is nothing wrong with my comment. GMR spent lots of time designing/testing all out performance for the Time Attack car, and didnt mess with the stock intake manifold other than adding a dual pass endplate.

Again, it's nice ZZP is still making parts for us, and testing things out.

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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
It's nice to see ZZP still producing/testing new parts for the LSJ crowd, but the intake side of the engine is really not the problem....

A nice exhaust ported head & cams is a far better upgrade IMO.
OK, but what if you already have a ported head with decent cams and still getting high IAT's with a Harrop on full song?

On the Laminova site it is stated that: An estimate figure is that you’ll need approximately 2.5 mm core per horsepower
Our cores are 198m x 4, so good till ~317HP. And that is probably crank HP withour SC losses, so for high HP Harrop builds it will help to have additional cooling capacity...
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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 10:59 AM
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OK, but what if you already have a ported head with decent cams and still getting high IAT's with a Harrop on full song?

On the Laminova site it is stated that: An estimate figure is that you’ll need approximately 2.5 mm core per horsepower
Our cores are 198m x 4, so good till ~317HP. And that is probably crank HP withour SC losses, so for high HP Harrop builds it will help to have additional cooling capacity...
I'm not going to get into a debate about this.... and I'm not saying you are incorrect in what u posted either. U make some decent points, but....

I've been around long enough, and seen many attempts at making our intercooling/intake manifold better w/o any great gains (air to air, ported, different H.E.'s, etc.). People can continue to try, but I still feel it's a waste of time.

Even ZZP admitted it wasn't worth the money per gain after they tested it. Maybe something will be produced in the future that will work.... who knows.

On a side note, most the people that were hoping this will work are not even pushing the limits of the stock cooling/intake manifold system.... and prob never will.

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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 11:07 AM
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I think I might
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