redbalt

iTrader: (-1)

Hey everyone, just in the mix of completing my stage kit and came across this link on the zzp website...just wondering if this works for stock ss/sc or do you have to have stg2??..and for $499.00...doesnt seem to bad to me..

https://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt...1055&catid=143

let me know what you get think...i personally would run the 2.8 w/ 60's with this kit.

Jason

OneSlow_SS

it works with stock ss/sc cause its all pretty much plug and play since ur getting a canned tuned pcm...also look into to buying everything individually and getting a custom tune from someone in ur area may be a little cheaper..

redbalt

iTrader: (-1)

you cant get this with a canned tune and then just re tune it with hp tuners?

lsjwannabe

iTrader: (1)

Shoot me a pm what you are looking for i can beat that price

Josh@ottp

iTrader: (4)

http://www.ottperformance.com/p111/O...9a8a72101e1b90

You can order right from the site. It's cheaper and has more options, comes with the biggest core heat exchanger on the market, and has a cheaper core charge on the pcm if you choose to keep it.

Zooomer

iTrader: (1)

The OTT HE in no way compares to a ZZP stage 3. It's very similar to the S2.

If you look at who's going fast, you'll also notice that the only cars making big HP, trapping over 120 or running 11's and lower 12's are running ZZP parts and tunes.

If you need special pricing on ZZP stuff, black Friday is coming and no one does that like ZZP

redbalt

iTrader: (-1)

ottp ... whats the core charge for?? you send me the kit and i send you my stock pcm??

lsjwannabe

iTrader: (1)

That would be if you wanted no down time with the car we would send you out a tuned pcm and you would return your stock one for a refund.

Josh@ottp

iTrader: (4)

All I said is it's bigger than anything else. Which is true, it's also true that on paper it beats your stage 1,2,3. Only way to tell which one is better is to do side by side tests.

ZZP does have the fastest cars, I won't deny it. But we are just talking about a stage kit here, not a twincharge setup.
The core charge works like this, you pay the $100. We send you a tuned pcm with the kit, once you have installed everything you can choose to keep both pcms or send back your stock one. Once we receive your stock one we refund the $100 to your account.

Zooomer

iTrader: (1)

No, it doesn't beat our S3 on paper. It doesn't even compare. You don't even need to test them when you are familiar with how a concept like cooling works. That's like saying you have to test 2 pulleys to see which one spins faster. Once you know the science, the outcome is clear w/o further work.
True but on the M62 only ZZP has dominated anything OTT (or anyone else) has done as well. In HP and ET and MPH

lsjwannabe

iTrader: (1)

Again we are talking about a stage kit not what your stroker motor did.

Kudos for that, but you are comparing apples to oranges.

When you compare our stage kit to yours its clear ours a better value for the price.

rallycobalt06

comparing shop cars to customer's cars makes no sense.

Matt M

He's not talking about a stroker motor. He's referring to stock displacement M62 powered LSJs running ZZP parts.

schamsy

wish zzp could put their stage 3 on a cobalt and ottp could put their stage 1 on a car and run em side by side... OTTP would outrun and outlast the ZZP.

GO OTTP its a win/win. They have proven themselves and their professionalism is great!

lsjwannabe

iTrader: (1)

Even that being the case, this thread is about your stage three kit not what ryans car did becuase thats not a stage three kit.

As i stated before our kit is a better value for the customer becuase of the price and the contents.

terminator0723

It would be awesome to see a race between the 2!

collins14ss

i donno but i want stage 3 kit and so far zzp is cheaper

terminator0723

yeah im trying to decide... ottp s2 or zzp s3...

collins14ss

ya me to man im thinking zzp s3 tho but i donno im doing some more thinking

selfinfliction

i ran the ottp stage 2 for a few hundred miles and it was a solid canned tune and did pretty well. comparing it to the intense stage 4 (with a 2.8") it was a wee bit slower on the top, but had a more solid feeling mid range.

can't say anything about zzp's kit cause i haven't tried them

Black_Mamba

From what I can see, ZZP stage 3 and OTTP Stage 2 give about the same gains. The only difference is price and quality of heat exchanger. If you're like me and would need the multipulley system to run the OTTP kit and need a heat exchanger the difference in price should u choose the s3 h/e from zzp is 20 bux. The S3 is about 10 pounds lighter and again in my opinion is the best and most effective of the two heat exchangers. So ZZP may cost 20 bux more (more or less depending on what all you need in each kit) but the S3 is definately worth it. In this situation the OTTP kit may be the better offer for the buyer but in someone else's situation such as mine, the ZZP kit is the far better buy.

Omnigear

iTrader: (4)

fight fight =)
/throws fruit cup

brownbandit9

do not buy zzp products ...it will break and they will not fix it..look at my thread at what happnd and they said too bad

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/zzp-%3D-poop-203045/