i have my head out now at HeadGamesMotorWorks for a port and polish. i can get a good price on SuperTech springs for around $220ish and i was going that way till i saw ZZP valve springs at a really good price $189. but how do they compare to supertech? any one with problems with them? im either staying at the 2.79 or droping to a 2.7 no lower, and no farther than 7400 rpm.


http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_...1112&catid=143

 

I would go with the zzp valve springs, there cheaper, and the quality is probably the same. keep the money in your pocket for future parts

 

I would suggest you stick with the Supertech springs. I can guarantee ZZP does not have the ability to mass produce valve springs, so yu have no idea who they're actually made by. You get what you pay for when it comes to things like this. Stick to trusted names as far as engine internals go. $40 more is not going to break your bank account.

 

$40 to me is a lot to me now im getting married, looking for a new place, etc... so if i could save that much i will

 

Well, if it were me i would hold off until the $40 wasn't hard. Not that i'm telling you what to do, just my advice you know?

 

thats why i ask im tryiny to justify $40. if the ZZP springs have a tendency to break then i know what to go with

 

Yeah honestly man I would save 40$ and go with the zzp springs beacause they wouldnt make something that they think is going to suck and fail on people's cars and people say go with name brand but look at half the people out there going with ebay parts(ebay parts suck I know from past experiences) so besides all the rambling on I did....zzp FTW I'm sure that you want your wedding to be special so dont go out there and spend the extra money that you dont have....Im done lol

 

if you install the zzp springs, your head will blow off the car and rip a hole in the space time continuum

that's why i ordered a set today

 

so what your saying is that if i get ZZP springs and once i hit 88mph i can go back in time? does ZZP sell flux capactor?

 

my friend, what i'm saying is that if you install these springs, you won't need a flux capacitor.

i'm not sure if my machinist has anything that will measure the consistency of the resistance of these springs through compression, but i'll ask him when i drop them off, that's the only thing i would even begin to worry about and it's almost a moot point

 

almost 60k miles on the supertech 78lb spring kit. you NEED seat locators, if you run dual springs. period.

220 for springs only. this price does not include seat locators and Ti retainers.

 

Troof. OP may have been sucked in...ya get nothing for nothing

 

to be fair zzp uses their valves springs on all there builds.. and we know how their builds are beaten on .. and perform

 

Dave the owner of HeadGames is a close friend of mine i get all of my parts at cost. and as for locaters, retainers etc... i have em at daves im only worried about these ZZP valve springs, are they any good or not? thanks for the help though area

 

wow and you got mad at me for the same EXACT thing? isnt that like the kettle calling the pot black?

come on buddy...open your eyes!

RAY BATES NBS FOR $225 the GM ones, not some knock off made by you know who.

there's the truth^ read it and let it sink in. were all running supertech's with NO problems to date.

 

You guys are too picky, I used the springs right out of my mattress and it's running fine

 

that **** had me rotfl, +1

 

correction, I had a problem. a lot of my retainers cracked due to the hydraulic lifters collapsing. My springs were too high pressure. They were supposed to be 78lb springs, but they were 100lbs for some reason.

I just got the wrong springs thats all. I'm still debating on sending them back to get the correct springs, or just having them replace the retainers and going with solid lifters.

 

ray bates does not sell NBS to the public.

 

anyone care to explain the difference between ur stock lifters and a solid lifter? Our stocker seems pretty solid...lol
Is the stock one a 2 piece design or something? (im a lifter noob, and dont know how one would adjust valve lash either )

 

I am not sure how folks have issues with Supertech Springs, and the springs cost less than the retainers and guides for sure. So I am sure ZZP springs are good, and I am sure they compare to Supertech on price once you buy all the parts...

The camshaft lobe presses down on a roller finger follower, acted on by a hydraulic lash adjuster so the valve opens, etc. If the lash adjuster was solid, a cold clearance would have to be adjusted (generally by removing or adding shims under the follower), which on some overhead camshaft engines has a recess in the follower to retain the shim.

Its a PITA job as you have assemble/ measure /disassemble and reassemble/measure again to get valve clearance right. On the overhead camshaft Brian Hart Ford engines i raced as a kid, I measured the shims and kept a record so when i did the valve clearance check, I could do the math and remove the camshaft and replace the shims with the right one just once.

With an hydraulic lifter you dont have to do any mechanical clearance adjustment its taken up by the hydraulic lifter. What a great invention!....