scotch89

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so im deciding if i want to CAM my car or just super charge it. im thing the SC would be better and a lilttle easyer to do and for my car. so iif any one could with a complete list on it and some prices. and input on this stuff.

brickerenator

there is a thread around here somewhere

did you search?

scotch89

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just a lilttle bit. what about that vulcan turbo - short runer intake manifold? i have the 2.4 intake many in my car right now. would i see a huge diff

brickerenator

never heard of it

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l-l61-performance-tech-45/l61-turbo-super-forced-induction-information-thread-26325/

do some reading in this thread

Jn2

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depends on what you want to do, if you s/c u will need new clutch pretty soon after, and a new flywheel would be nice since the cluthc will be out anyway, along with cost of tuning parts etc, cams wil be eaiser, leaving just the cost of cams+tune, install can be done in 20 mins, if that, depnds on 3 things

1. size of ur wallet
2. how fast you wanna go
3. how much time can you afford to be w/out your car

07cobaltguy

cams install 20 mins? idk bout that one, maybe if you drop money on the special gear tools, cause the zip tie thing is pretty hairy if you ask me.

Jn2

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yeah 20 mins, dealership has the tool, use power drill, remove valve cover bolts, remove cam bolts, and than replace, and repeat, than put back, 30 mins with the right tools

scotch89

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dam cams didnt seem that easy. im just worried about missing up the timing im not that well with cars but i have some knowledge about them. if i did get cams i would have some one do it. any one now how much that would cost me in labor

Jn2

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if you use the tool, timing will be fine, if you use zipties, than you needt o be careful and will take way longer to do

scotch89

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is there a how to that has good pics on how to do this. also i dont now if this is true but do u leave the cam gears on the chain and just pull the cams out and put the new ones in? so the only thing u need to do is pull the cams out not cam gears?

Jn2

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if you have the tool, it take like 2 mins of starig at the engine to figure out...remove valve cover, ut in tool, loock tool, bolt tool down to head, than remove bolts, remove cams, put cams in, put bolts back in, remove tool, put valve cover back, and try and start ur car(for stg1), if you got a higher stage, upload tune(upload tuine if you got stg1 tune aswell)

scotch89

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so where would i get the tool at?

Jn2

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good luck finding it, the dealerships have them, and ebay has some at random, they sell for like 40-50 on ebay, and dealer wont loan them out :p JBP has'mfor rent

scotch89

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i think i found what it looks like here the link. http://www.otctools.com/newcatalog/products/07-138.pdf here it is on ebay is this it?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OTC-6...mZ250331583109

Halfcent

The zip tie method is not that hard guys.

Simply remove the timing chain tensioner. That will allow you to remove the cam gears without any trouble with the chain zip tied to it.

And yes, the links you have above are a good tool for the job, but the expense is not worth it.

Jn2

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yeah those are aot, the one on ebay that i saw alot, were way simpler and was made for just the ecotec

scotch89

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ok, i rely want to use the zip tie way. so let me get this straight. take the head off and bolts, zip tie the chain to the cam gears? or remove the chain then zip tie them so i can remove the full cam set?

Halfcent

Well, you don't take the head off. But I assume you meant to say the valve cover. There is a step by step guide in one of the build books, I just don't remember which one right now. Basically, you get the valve cover off, then the chain guide cover that's under there, zip tie the chain to the gear sprokets in a couple of places to keep them together, then you remove the chain tensioner. That will allow you to take the gears off the cams without any problems of tension on the chain. Removing the chain tensioner is the part that most people have problems with because they don't know where it is or how to remove it, or reinstall it. It is easy if you have done it once, but not so easy if you have no idea where it is how it works.

scotch89

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ya i have now idea.....**** guess i need to do some search before i rely get seriouse about this.