2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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Boss was getting me mad

So. he goes Mike, you know your going to invest all this money into your car and in two years you wont even care about it and plus you can't make it that much faster I want somebody to reasure me that if I do a full N/A build what can the potential bhp be? i know this is so random but i wanna be sure if im gonna invest money that i will see a huge diffrence...as for the go turbo guys or go sc i wanna build a bullitproof na engine lol maybe some juice...
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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tell him to give you a raise so you can buy a new car. Then keep bugging him about it. You will feel better. There is always a faster car out there, drive what you like because of you. but i mean you wont be uhh.... "fast"
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
So. he goes Mike, you know your going to invest all this money into your car and in two years you wont even care about it and plus you can't make it that much faster I want somebody to reasure me that if I do a full N/A build what can the potential bhp be? i know this is so random but i wanna be sure if im gonna invest money that i will see a huge diffrence...as for the go turbo guys or go sc i wanna build a bullitproof na engine lol maybe some juice...
NA is definitely more expensive than FI build and much harder to get the power you're probably looking for, but if you have the money you could probably make it happen.
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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is their any way possible for a n/a to run high 12's
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
is their any way possible for a n/a to run high 12's
Yea, alot of juice.....
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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I've seen NA civics run 10's. Anything is possible, but keep in mind it's not gonna happen without craploads of cash.

I mean, I guess I don't understand the concept of staying NA. It takes 3x the money for half the performance.

If you want to build a mean all motor cobalt, then please do. But, it's hard to get NA performance out of a 4 banger, it's not like we're talking about putting bolt ons on a mustang cobra and getting 60+ hp.
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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you can make anycar fast, with the right wallet, if you go all n/a on the balt, build the engine i can see 200+hp, and even more on juice, hell buidl that engine up from bottom up, and slap a 150 direct shot of juice, you will fly
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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thanks JN for giving me hope lol i plan on buying all the engine internal upgrades from ttr and everything )
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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easiest way is go to a junkyard and buy a eco there, dont matter the mileage, you throwin new internals anyway, i know here they sell them for 150 for the entire engine, just buy it, tear it down, clean it, portn polish the head, and start buying internals for it, build it up, have a shop put it back together, and put in the car, and than ur set, add boost or juice or whatever you want, cuz u know the engine can handle it
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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could u drop the 2.ol sc engine in the 2.2l ls??????
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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yes you can, is it cost effective, no, is it worth it? no, would i suggest it? no! ull get better result from just working with the 2.2you have now
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jn2
easiest way is go to a junkyard and buy a eco there, dont matter the mileage, you throwin new internals anyway, i know here they sell them for 150 for the entire engine, just buy it, tear it down, clean it, portn polish the head, and start buying internals for it, build it up, have a shop put it back together, and put in the car, and than ur set, add boost or juice or whatever you want, cuz u know the engine can handle it
thats my plan

i want to build na just to do it
everyone goes f/i...no one has truelly built a 2.2 na cobalt for some serious increase in hp...
i do think that an all motor build with the right support mods could hit 12's
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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drop enough weight i dont see why not, take out everything, buidl it right, increase compression, but12's i dont know, my uddy with a n/a cav run mid 14's on it, and im sure it can do more now that he did a few more mods to it
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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drop enough weight i dont see why not, take out everything, buidl it right, increase compression, but12's i dont know, my uddy with a n/a cav run mid 14's on it, and im sure it can do more now that he did a few more mods to it
ya...i think it can be done and if not ill have fun getting there!!!
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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N/A is an expensive way to go slow.
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