Full bolt-ons and tune, stock head and cams

 

same thing happened to my obx
thats what you get for buying car **** off ebay!

 

I'm still hell bent on the Vibrant.. Lol. I don't really like any of the others..

 

You should go with clearimage man. Their company is great to deal with and the parts they make are top notch quality. Plus they are a little cheeper in price than vibrant and match them in quality and fitment. ZZP, pacecetter, and obx are cheeper and lots of people have experienced problems with those headers. I had a obx 4-1 header on my old nissan altima and it was a complete nightmare to get it to fit properly and seal correctly.

 

Well thats just means my memory was correct. 45mm with 1.2mm-1.3mm tube would get us a 1.71 internal dimension......so maybe my memory is doing okay.....LOL

Either way, 45mm is a tad on the large side for a stock cam, stock compression, factory intake 2.2

 

pretty sure they run a standard magnaflow cat...so cat reliability shouldnt be an issue. If you do go this route, get the 1.5" primary header, not the 1.75" (obviously)

 

Do you mean intake manifold?

 

by the word intake? yes I mean intake manifold.

 

get zzp header/dp

 

agreed. cant go wrong with this

 

What if one was to get the 2.4 intake manifold and TB? Then would the Vibrant combo be appropriate?

 

no.. unless you want zero low end pull. The vibrant is too big, but you seem to really want it anyway, even though we're telling you not to get it lol.

You want to have a properly sized exhaust for many reasons, one of the main reasons being getting the exhaust gasses out of the pipes as fast as possible. By having an exhaust setup that's too big, you're not optimizing the flow, and your engine has to work harder to push the gasses out. The idea, however, is for the engine to work less hard, that's where you get your power gains from. Making the engine more efficient. That's the whole goal of modding your car, make the engine more efficient. By putting on an exhaust or any other parts that are not properly sized, you're not making the engine more efficient. Which defeats the whole point.

That being said, unless you plan on putting alot of work into your engine, the primaries are going to be too big... factor that in with an exhaust that is probably too big as it is, and you have alot of wasted money for nothing more than a noisy car.

 

yeah im not too sure you are dying to buy an 800 header and dp combo. theres cheaper out there thats also as reliable as the vibrant

 

yes nice piece. i was able to redone my exhaust setup, i ll be with vibrant with a custom 2˝ mendrel crush.

now
header from lsj
downpipe LSJ with a hiflow cat
custom 2ź not mendrel crush that i can swap two diffenrents exhausts on it
fully bolt on
cam stg2

this setup is able to do 14,25 @ 94mph (w/o my cam stg 2)

 

No. Because A: the 2.4 intake is still a factory intake isnt it? Byoure still stock compression arent you???? C youre still stock cams arent you???

Okay heres the thing, in the end I honestly dont give a **** what you buy.........You(and lots of other people) come in an ask if part X is appropriate for a build......Myself and others then proceed to make a list of all the reason why it isnt........Then a new question is posed that doesnt really affect ANY of the reasons that were stated why the part isnt appropriate for your build but you wanna know if part X will work now...........Listen, if you wanna buy the Vibrant header, you dont need the blessing or permission of anyone here. Buy the ****** and put it on your completely stock 2.2, dont change ANYTHING, not even your airfilter, no other mods are needed, youll get 217whp. Now you have the answer you want.


I apparently wrongly assume we are all some sort of grown ups here.......dont ask a question of the community if youve already made up your mind on what you wanna do. Its a waste of time and bandwidth.

 

lulz

 

I truly dont mean to sound like an *******, I do my best to help as many people as possible...thats the only reason I come here. But seriously, even a tiny bit of research goes along way,(asking supercharged guys what the best header is does not constitute research) Pick up a book on basic internal combustion engines,pick up a book a full out race engine design, search the internet and see if you can find if theres a formula to help you come with the answer to your question.
There a lot of people here who are constantly looking for free fish, and precious few who are even remotely willing to learn how to catch them for themselves.

 

Yes, the 2.4 is the factory intake, for a 2.4 motor, correct.. But it is not stock for the 2.2..

I am not trying to argue with you but.. "Myself and others then proceed to make a list of all the reason why it isnt........Then a new question is posed that doesnt really affect ANY of the reasons that were stated why the part isnt appropriate for your build but you wanna know if part X will work now".. Well the new question that was posed, does, quite frankly, effect the reason stated, because you said "FACTORY INTAKE".. the 2.4 intake is not "FACTORY" on the 2.2

And the fact that TurboTechRacing has it posted on their website that it fits on the 2.2 and told me that it would be better on a 2.2 than that of ZZP's products.

 

Did i say it wouldnt work with the stock manifold? No, I specifically stated factory manifold, the opposite of a factory manifold would be an aftermarket manifold, not just a different factory manifold.

Youre right, its not factory on the 2.2, but its still a factory intake isnt it? Notice i said "stock" cams, and "stock" compression, but "factory" intake.....maybe there was a reason behind that

Yes, it does fit, it was never stated that it doesnt fit.....just that it wasnt APPROPRIATE.
Heres also where a little bit of research/questions would have gone a long way.......TTR said that what they sell would be better than what ZZP sells......GEE big ******* suprise.

Did you bother to ask TTR why the Vibrant was better for your 2.2 than the ZZP headers were?

Or why it was better than the Pacesetter which TTR also sells?

Or why the Vibrant which has over 1.75" primaries is recommended for the 2.2 when Pacestters 2.2 header is only 1.5"????

 

dosent the 2.4 mani come on the 08 and 09 base balts?

 

The 2009 2.2(LAP) uses the same intake manifold as the 2008-up 2.4L does, yes. But this manifold is different than the original 2006-07 2.4L manifold.

 

1. The best reason I was given, was the Metallic vs Ceramic cat dilemma.

2. I was under the impression Pacesetter sucked, as per my forum searching led me to believe.

It's alright, I've looked into CIA and I'm confident I would like a combo from them.

 

...really?
^none of that post did anything for you?

 

Yes, really.

And yes, that post did, but it was not specific as to where it becomes inefficient, however.

 

yes it was, read again