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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Nitrous confusion

I wonder what the ticket would be if you got caught with a nitrous system...I can't find the answer anywhere :S. Also is there a way to make it legal?? Like if you had it connected and no nitrous is it illegal?? Or lets say you just had the bottle closed, is it legal then. Or are you transporting an dangerous gas...is it illegal because of that? Also is that accessory kit neccessary to buy with the nitrous system?
Like the bottle warmer ect. Is using it in the hot weather good enough???? The accessory kit is almost as expensive as the nitrous kit itself. I was thinking of going with Nitrous Express kit. And the build book says that it can handle a maximum of a 60 Shot.
LAST QUESTION.....How many times and for how long could you use the system before you had to fill it. SOOO MANY QUESTIONS...no answers
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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I'm pretty sure the law in canada is you can have the whole system hooked up, but riding around on the street, the bottle MUST be disconnected from the system or else its illegal.

So, all you'd have to do is connect it when you got to the track...Altho the whole process is prolly up to the discretion of the cop...
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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You have to have a dangerous goods certification to legally travel in a car with any Nitorus Oxide.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jiveturkey
I wonder what the ticket would be if you got caught with a nitrous system...I can't find the answer anywhere :S. Also is there a way to make it legal?? Like if you had it connected and no nitrous is it illegal?? Or lets say you just had the bottle closed, is it legal then. Or are you transporting an dangerous gas...is it illegal because of that? Also is that accessory kit neccessary to buy with the nitrous system?
Like the bottle warmer ect. Is using it in the hot weather good enough???? The accessory kit is almost as expensive as the nitrous kit itself. I was thinking of going with Nitrous Express kit. And the build book says that it can handle a maximum of a 60 Shot.
LAST QUESTION.....How many times and for how long could you use the system before you had to fill it. SOOO MANY QUESTIONS...no answers


with all due respect if u dont know anything about nitrous then u shouldnt have it your just askin for trouble
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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so nitrous is only for the graduates of nitrous college...I am sorry but with all due respect I think you are an idiot . If it is installed professionally and I am shown how to use it what is the problem?
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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opinions aside...you do need to learn HOW to use nitrous.
here is something I think you might find helpful.

http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/faq.htm
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Everyone in here seems to be off to a pretty friendly start. All the people who are saying if you don't know you should use it, should just be quiet. How the hell are you suppose to learn something if all you do is get shutdown when you ask. Instead of telling him not to use it, why don't you answer the question (if you even know it in the first place) and then point out what can happen if you don't have it set up right, and why.
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NGalaxyTimmyo
Everyone in here seems to be off to a pretty friendly start. All the people who are saying if you don't know you should use it, should just be quiet. How the hell are you suppose to learn something if all you do is get shutdown when you ask. Instead of telling him not to use it, why don't you answer the question (if you even know it in the first place) and then point out what can happen if you don't have it set up right, and why.

ok look ppl i wasnt tryin to b a dick all i ment was know wut u r workin with
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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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I have some experience with nitrous myself from my last car. First thing you have to do is make sure you double check then check again all your connections. Also make sure you don't travel around with the bottle, cause I beleive it's illegal to have it even in the car nevermind hooked up to anything.

As far as I know you have to have a sticker and a cert to transport it legally. As far as the actually kit, I don't believe it's illegal unless u have a bottle hooked up to it, regardless of it being empty or full.

Lastly you should be very carefull if you do end up getting nitrous, it's not a toy and can do some serious damage to your engine and void your warranty if not used correctly. Don't exceed a 75 wet shot for ANY STOCK ENGINE. Unless it's a 5.0 stang...(they can take UP TO a 125 wet shot depending on the motors condition).

Hope that helps.
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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I know nothing about canada..But im pretty sure in cali you can have the entire kit hooked up as long as the valve on the bottle isnt open. (dont quote me im not positive).

Good luck with your nitrous
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 68Drop
I know nothing about canada..But im pretty sure in cali you can have the entire kit hooked up as long as the valve on the bottle isnt open. (dont quote me im not positive).

Good luck with your nitrous
you can always install an electronic bottle opener. but in PA i think it is illegal to have the bottle connected at all. it can be in the car and full, but it must be disconnected from the system.
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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good luck don't be like this guy




that is a blown maxima. The owner wired the bottle heater wrong and it never shut off. The bottle ended up blowing from too much pressure. LISTEN, the above is really rare but you should still get a emergency blow down kit. Hell, they won't let you drag at most strips without it anyhow.
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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As for kits, the NX kit is supposed to be good. Also, the ZEX kit has been used with a lot of success. Many people prefer the ZEX kit due to ease of installation. However, some have had serious quality and support problems. For example, I think it was McDan that discovered some ZEX control boards have bad soldering which leads to shorts. At any rate, the vast majority of ZEX owners have not had problems.

As a quick side note, I would suggest buying one part for safety. By an emergency blow down kit for the bottle. In case of excess pressure in the bottle it will blow and vent all the nitrous outside the car. In extremely rare circustances, a bottle heater will not turn off and the pressure inside the tank will climb to the point of explosion.
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by carbombss
with all due respect if u dont know anything about nitrous then u shouldnt have it your just askin for trouble
i would like to see you actually say something about nitrous that shows you know something. i hope you get banned.

i live in canada, and i will ask you this.....how often do you get pulled over for a speeding ticket? out of those times, how often do they check your trunk? its all about emissions, so if you could run it and pass emissions then its all legal (although it obviously wouldnt), if you get caught you would just have to take it in for a check.
its only illegal here to transport if you are transporting large amounts, they even apply that for oxygen tanks.

as far as your other questions, the most reliable source is going to be the people that sell your kit (tech support), and the experience of doing it yourself. there are alot of people here who might be able to give you some good information though (aside from the people telling you not to do it)

keep us posted on what you do, would love to see some pics of the completed install
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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anyone who thinks about putting nitrous into their ride should definitely do some SERIOUS research and have it installed by a PROFESSIONAL who has EXPERIENCE with said systems.

don't buy anything you don't know about, you're asking for a heap of trouble. do the research and do things right, it shouldn't be a decision you make and install in a weekend. it also shouldn't be something that you talk about on a forum for 3 posts and then go attempt yourself.

nitrous done right and tuned correctly is an amazing thing. nitrous done wrong can be EXTREMELY dangerous not only to your engine but to your person as well.
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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nitrous bottles have caps that blow at like 3000 psi so if it does get high it will just blow the cap. and if your smart you'll run a nitrous blow down tube so it vents outside the car not in it. most bottle heaters are programed either to turn off at a certain temp and or bottle pressure. nx has the best heater it works on pressure. the problem with the temp controled heaters is that on like a 85-90 degree day its so friggen hot that it won't come on.
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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jive turkey arent you soppose to have the " turbo charged " cobalt but could never produce any pics? u got nerve posting here again lol.
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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For all who forgot about this idiot
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/war-stories-54/cars-beaten-my-turbo-cobalt-ls-so-far-11515/
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Old Feb 10, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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hey BADZSS06 how big a shot you runnin on your maro? transbrake,posi rear end, manual valvebody, converter stall sp? is it a track only car or do you street it? my uncle has a 71-72 firebird that runs a 10.15@131 on juice, but that was when he had stock heads. hes gotten Al heads but hasnt been back to the track.
i love my cobalt but my heart is in the v-8's. i wish mine ran more than anything. 65 mercury comet 289 750 dbl pumper, 4.11 posi thru a C4 w/2300rpm conv. he had 5.76 rear gears and a 3000rpm converter before i bought it but he wanted it to be more streetable.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kahless
hey BADZSS06 how big a shot you runnin on your maro? transbrake,posi rear end, manual valvebody, converter stall sp? is it a track only car or do you street it? my uncle has a 71-72 firebird that runs a 10.15@131 on juice, but that was when he had stock heads. hes gotten Al heads but hasnt been back to the track.
i love my cobalt but my heart is in the v-8's. i wish mine ran more than anything. 65 mercury comet 289 750 dbl pumper, 4.11 posi thru a C4 w/2300rpm conv. he had 5.76 rear gears and a 3000rpm converter before i bought it but he wanted it to be more streetable.
right now there is 150 jets in there. this year the car should see the 200 and 250 jets. we'll seewhat happens im trying to get the car into the 9.90 range. its street driven, not ever day but depending on the weather if its nice 3-4 days out of the week.
no tranny brake just foot brake it and give it hell. the conv. is a hughes 3000 with lock up. the tranny is a dynamic racing 700r4 standard valve body. if i want to shift the car i can or leave it in d and just cruise.
The rear is a 9in ford with a detroit locker and 4.11rear gear. hotchkis suspension eibach prokit so its not really made for the track but it performs real well when its there.
theres some random pics of me and my buddies car at

www.putfile.com/jimmydav
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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i was really wanting to put a dart 9.5"deck 4 bolt block b+s to 460 and go for mid-low9's. even if i dont need the 460 id like to run somewhere in the 9's. my cars running 90/10 and 70/30 comp engineering susp pieces and the battery is already in the trunk. gapless rings or stock rings? i could probably run my car all year round if i could get it running, and afford 93octane at 5-8mpg. its still 80degrees here in the middle of winter. texas sucks.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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moly top rings andcast seconds there not gapless theres alot of power to be made in a 460 but it just as easy with a stroked 351w plus you save on the weight
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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the 460 is a stroked 351W. using the dart block or the world man-o-war block your supposed to be able to bore them out far enough and stroke em to get 460. kinda like the hardcore 454 small blocks. world actually has a crate 460 stroker thats 575hp and 550lbft.
http://www.worldcastings.com/docs/05_cat_pg40.pdf#search='world%20460%20small%20bloc k'

thats the world version but i dont know how long the blocks last. dart's supposed to be the best. afterwards i will of course still tell people that its a 302 and hope they dont know the difference. if theyre smarter ill give in and say its a 351. most ricers dont know much about v-8s so they get its a 289. but i do know the difference between most honda motors. and theres a guy with a 500+hp silvia s15 around here, but i call shennanigans since he owns deepstage and has unlimited funds/resources while im broke.
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