2.2L L61 Performance Tech 16 valve 145 hp EcoTec with 155 lb-ft of torque

performance advice 06' LT auto

Old Dec 6, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 07cobaltguy
you are joking right? Ive had mine on for more than a year, there are about a half dozen of us have had boost for a year or more with no issues at all. if you dont know what you are talking about you really shouldnt talk.

Also there are tuning solutions that are proven and work excellent.
oh hai guess wut... you have an 07 we are talking about 06's. try again. I know what I am talking about. You have the ability with 07 + 's to actually tune them. 06 and below your wasting your time.

Of course you have the ability to properly setup and tune your custom boosted application. He doesn't.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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yea i dont think ima worry about it, might just do an exhaust, header, just looks and sounds. nothing big, was in a huge wreck with a buddy last fall so got like 50k comin for me to spend after the bills and all. prolly just go with a 370z. not a big fan of american cars. thanks for all the info though. glad i didnt waste a bunch of money.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
oh hai guess wut... you have an 07 we are talking about 06's. try again. I know what I am talking about. You have the ability with 07 + 's to actually tune them. 06 and below your wasting your time.

Of course you have the ability to properly setup and tune your custom boosted application. He doesn't.
05-06 has a proven and effective tuning solution. welcome to spring 2008.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
um. i've owned both an SS/SC and a LT 2.2 Sedan. An 06 2.2 Auto has 0 options for making it fast besides a bottle of nitrous. Other peeps have placed forced induction on therir cars but it didn't stay on long before they ran into issues. I have yet to personally see a forced induction setup last on a 2.2 Cobalt for more than 2-4 months before the owner took it off because of issues.

Go ahead it's your money I'd personally save it myself and enjoy the ride the way it was designed to be. Save gas, get to point a to point b and be reliable in the form it should be.

I bought a truck. Yeah it has a V8 in it but I am not going to throw a supercharger or turbo on it. Waste of time. Using it for what it was intended, to get thru incliment weather, carry my heavy ass **** I load up in it and get me where it needs to.

Your going to need more than a few thousand to make your ride fast.



05 - 06 2.2's have zero reliable tuning options even if he bought all the required parts. If anyone says use a piggy back I've got sand in the desert to sell you.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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It seems like there is the same people coming in with the same angles to the same old questions...

The guy has an 06 LT with an automatic, so personally I am guessing he didn't buy this to set land speed records.

I have a 2.2 LS with an automatic, and personally, it is just to get to work and back.

Modifying the 2.2 is worth it to the one driving their car every single day wanting it to be just a little more than it is. Not to be able to pass a 2000 Trans Am, just to pass most commuter cars in it's class when needed. The faster you can accelerate, the shorter the needed sprint to pass a car, and the least chance of being 10+ mph over the speed limit when the pass is completed. People tend to go slow, and when you try to pass, then they decide to go which blows.

Suspension mods such as a front and rear strut brace, Koni suspension, and sway bars just so when you dodge garbage (Hondas) on the road, you stay firm to the road. But honestly, there is no slalom course on my way to work and the price tag to get the above is too much money. Maybe one mod here and there over time, but never all at once. Safety is priceless, but unfortunately, I am not Donald Trump.

An intake, header, full exhaust is more than enough up and go for a Cobalt 2.2 auto to get you to work or the grocery store quick enough.

A front strut brace is a nice item for better cornering, but not so dramatic of a difference on a Cobalt than it is on the Sunfire or Cavalier.

Stainless steel brake lines is also an excellent mod. It is also very affordable and very effective.

The end result? 0-60 in around 7.6 seconds, better braking and a little better cornering.
Is that great? No, but just enough to pass most common commuter cars (Sentra, Altima 2.5, Civic, Focus, Stratus, Intrepid, V-6 Rustang, and so on) on your way to work. Most people are not racing, but the extra oomph makes it a lot nicer getting in and out of traffic.

Most ask, why did you spend $200 for a header, $200 for an intake, and $400 on a catback exhaust and another $120 to get the 2.25 inch cat to match it all up. The answer is, I had on average $200 to spend on a mod at any given time. It is not done all at once, as I could not afford to do so. If I had around a grand laying around, I would get another used SC kit and wait to save up for the install and reflash.

The wife's Sunfire has a 2.25 exhaust from the cat on, ground kit, and a CAI and it has plenty of up and go. How much? When it did not have the CAI it barely lost to an older Maxima that is rated 0-60 in 7.6 seconds. The CAI has made it feel considerably quicker.
It should be at least 7.6 seconds now.

She has a front strut brace and stainless brake lines too. I also have for her a 4:2:1 stainless Tsudo header with downpipe and a rear strut brace. When I went to get the rear brace installed, they said I should wait to get the suspension replaced before installing as the labor cost can be used towards swapping out the old struts and shocks, the car has 110k miles.

The header and down pipe probably will knock off another .1 seconds off the 0-60, woop ding, I know... but I am wanting it more for the jump in fuel efficiency everyone that has put one of these on their Ecotec has been talking about. 35mpg and a 0-60 in 7.5 seconds, that to me is great. Everyone's definition of great is different. But I am keeping in mind what is being modded and the end result, and keeping expectations realistic. I do look at all the members on both boards mods and track times, they coincide.

The end result of these mods is not a fast car, and it wont beat any one car at the track.

If it gets to a 7.3 second 0-60 to match a Celica GTS, we would be happy enough. It is however a lot nicer in handling, stopping and going. So to me it was worth it. The 2.2 does have a lot of potential, but unfortunately I don't have GM's budget to make my Cobalt a 7 second 1/4 mile car.

My Cobalt is completely stock so far, and I will start mods once the wife's car gets the header, rear brace, suspension and rims done. So in other words, when the warranty on my car is up, so is it's status as 'stock' or 'Slobalt'. It will then change to perhaps 'Mediocrebalt' or better, hopefully.

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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jdopp911
yea i dont think ima worry about it, might just do an exhaust, header, just looks and sounds. nothing big, was in a huge wreck with a buddy last fall so got like 50k comin for me to spend after the bills and all. prolly just go with a 370z. not a big fan of american cars. thanks for all the info though. glad i didnt waste a bunch of money.
i feel you on that, i was in a car accident myself a year ago and im getting a nice chunck of $$ in march also. im thinking about getting the hyundai genesis coupe but im still keeping the balt.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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How is everyone in a wreck getting $50k and I know a girl at work getting $200k for a busted up knee? WT... over?

I have spinal and neck injuries, a witness and 6 months of physical rehab, and I got $2k after the bills. I would much rather had broken bones than nerve damage. I should have gotten a million for what I have to deal with.

WT... over?
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike85220
How is everyone in a wreck getting $50k and I know a girl at work getting $200k for a busted up knee? WT... over?

I have spinal and neck injuries, a witness and 6 months of physical rehab, and I got $2k after the bills. I would much rather had broken bones than nerve damage. I should have gotten a million for what I have to deal with.

WT... over?
i had to have surgery thats y mines is going to be a lot but not 200k i wish! more like 75-80k
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jdopp911
yea i dont think ima worry about it, might just do an exhaust, header, just looks and sounds. nothing big, was in a huge wreck with a buddy last fall so got like 50k comin for me to spend after the bills and all. prolly just go with a 370z. not a big fan of american cars. thanks for all the info though. glad i didnt waste a bunch of money.
are you gonna have 50k to spend after bills, or are you ONLY going to have 50k after bills... If that's the case, trust me, don't waste it on a car lol
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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I need surgery, and unfortunately the worst symptoms on average show up 2 years or less later. That adds up to getting screwed by the insurance company as they use that to their advantage.

If you don't look hurt, you get nothing or near nothing which is completely unfair. They think it is the old my neck hurts ploy to get money. As such, I get royally F-----d...

Next time, I will ram my head through the windshield and make sure there is blood and take pics. Any other way, they wont believe the injury is real. Of course I wont ram my head unpurposely through the windshield, I am being sarcastic... But what a crappy deal I was dealt. That old HAG, "where's the Old Country Buffet?"
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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I was in a bad accident back in april and still havent gotten a dime... even on the medical bills. **** USAA!
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jdopp911
yea i dont think ima worry about it, might just do an exhaust, header, just looks and sounds. nothing big, was in a huge wreck with a buddy last fall so got like 50k comin for me to spend after the bills and all. prolly just go with a 370z. not a big fan of american cars. thanks for all the info though. glad i didnt waste a bunch of money.
not even gunna waste my time... just gunna make a breif statement...

12s are capable... **** even 11s are, just do a turbo build with new pistons, rods, head studs, gaskets, and intake manifold with a nice sized turbo

and its people like you that want to buy foreign ****

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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 01:27 AM
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Yeah... I had plans for being fast in a straight line but since I have became addicted to autox my mods have shifted more towards suspension.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
oh hai guess wut... you have an 07 we are talking about 06's. try again. I know what I am talking about. You have the ability with 07 + 's to actually tune them. 06 and below your wasting your time.

Of course you have the ability to properly setup and tune your custom boosted application. He doesn't.
like he said you have no idea what your talking about...hunterkiller is full of wisdom ^^

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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PSHHH
like he said you have no idea what your talking about...hunterkiller is full of wisdom ^^

Black '06 Cobalt LS Auto Supercharged 265 bHP
| GMPP Exhaust | Smoked Taillights | 5% rear, 15% front | Black Gen1 Projectors | 18x8 Black Kyowa rims | Nexen P3000 tires | DC Sport Strut Bar | Auto Transmission Mounts | Koni Front/Rear Struts | Eibach Sportlines | 10k low/6k high beams | ZZP Mid-Length Header/DP combo | Hayden Transmission Cooler | AEM Fuel/Ignition Controller | AEM UEGO | Black/Red Insert SS Seats, Door Panels, and Trim Pieces | High Rise Spoiler | M62 Blower | ZZP Heat Exchanger | Option B | Red Mech. Boost Gauge | Dual Red Interceptors | TTR Rear Sway Bar |
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PSHHH
like he said you have no idea what your talking about...hunterkiller is full of wisdom ^^
While I commend Mr. Hunter for his write up and his dedication to detail on his build. One thing about his setup which leaves much to be desired is his tuning is provided by a 3rd party vendor (no offense to tri) in which he soley relies on them making the adjustments for him. Another thing is the fact that he lives in a climate that never sees a -/+ 30 degree drop in amibent temperatures so he can have his "tuner" dial things in better for him and not have to make sacrafices.

For anyone else that lives in a state with rapidly changing temperates like MIchigan this would not work for you. You would be asking Vince to change your setup just about every other week/month.

Also his "265 BHP" I don't see a real dyno off the car. In one of his posts he said his interceptor gauged 2xx HP", I won't trust numbers it gives for HP.

Neat build but for him to really push to envelope he has to crack the motor apart and beef the trans. Afer all said and done your looking easily at spending well over 5k plus to have the same performance as a mildly modded LSJ. He spent just 2k alone getting it to a useable condition.

To the operator, hardly worth the investment unless this really is what you want to do.

To the person I quoted, while I might have been wrong on the tuning part (hardly call having someone doing the work that is hundreds of miles away and going off quick logs which are only as accurate as the inexperience person doing it) tuning. I visit this forum maybe once every 5 months now that it's full of tools.
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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
While I commend Mr. Hunter for his write up and his dedication to detail on his build. One thing about his setup which leaves much to be desired is his tuning is provided by a 3rd party vendor (no offense to tri) in which he soley relies on them making the adjustments for him. Another thing is the fact that he lives in a climate that never sees a -/+ 30 degree drop in amibent temperatures so he can have his "tuner" dial things in better for him and not have to make sacrafices.

For anyone else that lives in a state with rapidly changing temperates like MIchigan this would not work for you. You would be asking Vince to change your setup just about every other week/month.

Also his "265 BHP" I don't see a real dyno off the car. In one of his posts he said his interceptor gauged 2xx HP", I won't trust numbers it gives for HP.

Neat build but for him to really push to envelope he has to crack the motor apart and beef the trans. Afer all said and done your looking easily at spending well over 5k plus to have the same performance as a mildly modded LSJ. He spent just 2k alone getting it to a useable condition.

To the operator, hardly worth the investment unless this really is what you want to do.

To the person I quoted, while I might have been wrong on the tuning part (hardly call having someone doing the work that is hundreds of miles away and going off quick logs which are only as accurate as the inexperience person doing it) tuning. I visit this forum maybe once every 5 months now that it's full of tools.
What about Geneculley or mp81 (who lives in MI)? Its a little cold where they live now And BTW...from all of the "my lsj gotta **** tune" threads I have seen, it would seem as if he's got a pretty good track record.. If you cant find someone here with a 2.2l balt that blew up cuz Trifecta screwed up please post the link. He works with you as much as he possibly can from as far as the members here report.
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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I put a megan cat back exhaust, eibach lowering springs, and i did a custom air intake, the car makes a nice daily driver, but also mine is a manual
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