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What are normal compression #'s?

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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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What are normal compression #'s?

This might have been discussed somewhere else, but a quick search didn't pull anything up.

I did a compression test today and pulled the following numbers from left to right.

125
130
155
150

I'm trying to find a frame of reference to compare to. What are your numbers?
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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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oh noesssssss.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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Game over. All numbers should be within 3 psi of each other.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
Game over. All numbers should be within 3 psi of each other.
correction 30 ^
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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
Game over. All numbers should be within 3 psi of each other.
I somehow doubt that. I think two of them are a bit low, granted, but they don't have to be that close.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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A quick search revels 10-15 psi at max difference is acceptable.

Looks like some weak cylinders.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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something is going on there....normal compression numbers are not that far off.


but I`m also used to seeing one cyl being way off the others. you might be ok.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 07:47 PM
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Try a wet compression test.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
A quick search revels 10-15 psi at max difference is acceptable.

Looks like some weak cylinders.
I'd be more suspect of a bent valve than a piston issue. I am going to check the valves later tonight.

If it does happen to be a bent valve or a piston ring, I'm going forged, as much as I didn't want to.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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You might need a rebuild soon
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Old May 21, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Why does bent valve = forged internals?
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Old May 21, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
Why does bent valve = forged internals?
Because it means I'm going to have to open her up anyways, might as well drop in some forged pistons and rods and let her rip. I bought a little POS hatchback so I wouldn't have to do this to the DD, but it looks like I'm going to have to.

Mechanic will give me the diagnosis Tuesday.
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Old May 21, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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To find out if it is valves all you have to do is check for air leaks when cranking it over by hand(listen at the exhaust and throttle body)
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Old May 21, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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To check for bent valves do a leak down test.
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Old May 22, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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You mentioned you flooded the cylinders right? Read my pm, i bet it will bring your compression numbers closer together...

Basically poor a little oil down into 1 and 2, turn her over without the boots on, then start her up and burn the oil out then redo your test. Drive the car for a bit and do another test. You should bring those to cyl's back up closer to the others.
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Old May 22, 2009 | 07:41 AM
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Minimum spec is 100, 150+ is much better. Maximum deviation is 30% from high to low, 20% is a better target. Squirt some oil in the cylinder and rerun the tests, if the compression improves to closer to other cylinder then youve got a ring/piston/cylinder wall issue, if it doesnt its most likely valve related.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
Minimum spec is 100, 150+ is much better. Maximum deviation is 30% from high to low, 20% is a better target. Squirt some oil in the cylinder and rerun the tests, if the compression improves to closer to other cylinder then youve got a ring/piston/cylinder wall issue, if it doesnt its most likely valve related.
So what are avg numbers you would see from a 2.2 ecotec? Should healthy motors be pulling ~150s across the board?

I may have misread but im pretty sure there was a turbo lsj guy pulling 190s and thats on 9.5:1 compression so shouldnt we pull higher #s?
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