My buddy has them and said they would fit my car and id see a pretty big gain. Is this true and what would I see?

 

you wouldnt be able to install the throttle body without a tune. but yes you would see gains on top end for sure, with slight low end torque loss

 

you need a tune but yes

 

What would happen if I didn't tune it

And why would I lose low end?

 

your car wouldnt run with the 2.4 tb if you didnt get a tune for it. with just the 2.4 IM you would be fine without a tune though

n the 2.4 IM is larger, for that reason you lose slight low-end torque but you have gains on top-end.. the loss is probably barely noticeable

 

Didnt answer the question^^^^^^^, please enlighten us as to why it would lose low end torque, eager to hear the answer

 

It's been proven on dyno runs that you lose low end torque but you gain in the higher RPM's

EDIT: Look for yourself... http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...t-W67C144.aspx

 

I know that, wanted Padlock to explain why though. Not trying to look it up myself. Lookin like he was talkin out his ass

 

Ya. Im more of a low end guy. I want my car to push ya in the seat. Throughout the powerband

 

It's not that much of a loss. It's worth it. I have it on my car, but because I'm an 04 ion I have a different TB pattern so I could never get my throttle body to make a seal to the intake mani even with the adapter plate. I'm going to be putting my 2.2 mani back on soon so if you're interested lemme know.

 

facepalm. you disgust me.

 

I did the mani swap and soon plan to do the TB swap. I noticed a torque loss lower end until ~4K RPMs but after that it felt like it pulled harder so I kept it on. If you don't tune for the 2.4L TB your car will go into limp mode I believe - you go nowhere fast. Do you have an intake? SRI or cold air?
A tune will maximize the 2.4 mani and of course the TB as well. Do you plan on just bolt-ons for this car or forced induction? Keep in mind some parts will be replaced if you install a forced induction system later.


I don't remember on the later LAPs if the 2.4L mani is actually any different than the late LAP mani. Might wanna look around the LAP section. What model does your friend have?

BTW, I see your in Tonawanda, you should come out to the WNY meets this year.

 

I figured since the LAP has a 2.4 mani (2008my Sport style), I'd just get the 2.4 TB, tune and call it a day.

 

Ya man. Hit up my inbox ill get ur number ill come out. His intake is from a 08. Im looking at just bolt ons. For now at least. Depends if I get this new job