2.4L LE5 Performance Tech 16 valve 171 hp EcoTec with 163 lb-ft of torque

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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Thought the ss/sc was closer to 205hp. and 190whp
It's rated 205Bhp but on average dyno's ~215whp many have seen more.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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my thoughts are always to do whatever you want to your own car. but don't think that everyone has to feel the same way that you do. people will ahve different opinions, and you have to take the good with the bad. when you do things to your car, not everyone will like it. yea, some people are ******** and state their opinion the wrong way, but really who cares. do what you want and don't look back. but, like i said, don't think that everyone else should think the same way you do.
I hate when people worry so much about how others mod their cars. I mean you aren't gonna like everything and there is some pretty unappealing stuff done to cars but as long as the person that owns the car like it, it really doesn't matter. It's one thing to state your opinion but don't bash people for their person taste.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sean_halla
Thought the ss/sc was closer to 205hp. and 190whp
anyone that says the ss/sc dyno's 190whp doesn't know much about the ss/sc. they're RATED for 205hp, but most put down around 210-215whp or so stock.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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This is what I was talking about asfar as power wise. It's closer to the 2.2 than either 2.0 :

Stock 2.2 ~115/120
Stock 2.4 ~150/140
Stock 2.0s ~215/200
Stock 2.0t ~245/255
a stock 2.4 put down around 156whp and 15x torque
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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a stock 2.4 put down around 156whp and 15x torque
A Stock SS/SC has pulley 230whp stock. Though I said average not highest.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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theres not many stock 2.4 dynos, so far i have found 2 and both are closer to 160hp and all of them are over 140wtq

heres other guys:

159whp 156wtq
156whp 153wtq
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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But for every stock 2.4 putting down 160, there's a vid of an SS/SC putting down 220-230.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Even with those high numbers it's still closer to the 2.2 than either 2.0.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Did this turn from 07 2.4 V. 08 2.4 to 2.4 V 2.0 S/C? lol
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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honestly, who cares about all this
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Acey
But for every stock 2.4 putting down 160, there's a vid of an SS/SC putting down 220-230.
Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
Even with those high numbers it's still closer to the 2.2 than either 2.0.
I hear from like everyone that the S/C puts down more then it's rated but I've heard from a couple people first hand that 2.4's have hung with them fairly well, not beating them or keeping even, but not getting walked away from. All stock btw.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Shibito
I hear from like everyone that the S/C puts down more then it's rated but I've heard from a couple people first hand that 2.4's have hung with them fairly well, not beating them or keeping even, but not getting walked away from. All stock btw.
...that would be false. The SS/SC is notably more difficult to drive, so that might be part of the reason.
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Originally Posted by Shibito
I hear from like everyone that the S/C puts down more then it's rated but I've heard from a couple people first hand that 2.4's have hung with them fairly well, not beating them or keeping even, but not getting walked away from. All stock btw.
bad drivers. end of story, otherwise zero chance.

there's ss/sc drivers that hit 15's and 16's every day.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Shibito
I hear from like everyone that the S/C puts down more then it's rated but I've heard from a couple people first hand that 2.4's have hung with them fairly well, not beating them or keeping even, but not getting walked away from. All stock btw.
All stock like you mentioned it it really happened they surely beat the driver not the car.
You can look at the drag list to see that.

SS/SC ,STOCK,THE WAY IT IS FROM THE FACTORY
1.)madeinUSA,14.06@99.34 w/2.18 60'
2.)Tofu,14.12@97.29 w/2.00 60'
3.)STG2BALT,14.16@99.94 w/2.21 60'
4.)R&C_rallySS,14.24@100.06 w/2.23 60'
5.)SS4ME, 14.25@98.98 w/2.21 60'
6.)Julex,14.29@99.60 w/2.19 60'
7.)X3r0,14.34@97.81 w/2.23 60'
8.)NGalaxyTimmyo,14.35@99.36 w/2.27 60'
9.)NewEraPerformance,14.37@97.65 w/2.29 60'
10.)chipmonk212121,14.37@98.26 w/2.22 60'

(The 14.9 run below has been talked about considering it's no where close to other stock Et's/traps considering the 60' and everything)
2.4 SS, STOCK, THE WAY IT IS FROM THE FACTORY
1.)08sport1320,14.95@92.88 w/2.21 60'
2.)ProjectCobalt,15.46@86.69 w/2.35 60'
3.)UnLimiTed,15.66@88.64 w/2.27 60',coupe,5-speed
4.)iLLmaTic3s, 15.824@@85.55 w/2.427 60', coupe, auto,
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Acey
...that would be false. The SS/SC is notably more difficult to drive, so that might be part of the reason.
Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
bad drivers. end of story, otherwise zero chance.

there's ss/sc drivers that hit 15's and 16's every day.
I have no idea of their driving skills, just stating what I've heard. Anything can happen on the street.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Shibito
I have no idea of their driving skills, just stating what I've heard. Anything can happen on the street.
yea, but it doesn't mean the car can keep up. it just means the driver sucks.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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yea, but it doesn't mean the car can keep up. it just means the driver sucks.
It just means that the S/C is faster with equal level drivers. I hate when someone tries to post a street race and they get flamed because everyone thinks nothing's different then the 1/4 mile times of the best of each car. A race is as much if not more a case of driver vs. driver as it is car vs. car
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Shibito
A race is as much if not more a case of driver vs. driver as it is car vs. car
How do you figure that? Since the SS/SC is faster than an SS/NA, a not so good driver can still beat a good SS/NA driver. A race between cars with a 50+ whp difference isn't a driver's race.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Acey
How do you figure that? Since the SS/SC is faster than an SS/NA, a not so good driver can still beat a good SS/NA driver. A race between cars with a 50+ whp difference isn't a driver's race.
All it takes is one missed shift to blow a race. I'm not talking about necessarily a race between a 2.4 and a S/C, just races in general.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Shibito
It just means that the S/C is faster with equal level drivers. I hate when someone tries to post a street race and they get flamed because everyone thinks nothing's different then the 1/4 mile times of the best of each car. A race is as much if not more a case of driver vs. driver as it is car vs. car
so if i smoke a lambo because the guy can't drive, that means my car is as fast as a lambo? no, it means the driver sucked. but let me put it this way, it would take a REALLY bad 2.0 driver and a REALLY good 2.4 driver for it to be close. i don't see why this is even a debate. on average, with drivers that are so-so, not the best not the worst, the stock 2.0 runs about a half second-second quicker than the 2.4
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Even the very best drivers can miss a shift from time to time...
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
so if i smoke a lambo because the guy can't drive, that means my car is as fast as a lambo? no, it means the driver sucked. but let me put it this way, it would take a REALLY bad 2.0 driver and a REALLY good 2.4 driver for it to be close. i don't see why this is even a debate. on average, with drivers that are so-so, not the best not the worst, the stock 2.0 runs about a half second-second quicker than the 2.4
Well if you smoked a Lambo with a shitty ass driver it would be pretty damn funny. I said nothing about it making the cars equal, just that the driver counts as much as the car itself.

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Even the very best drivers can miss a shift from time to time...
Thank you.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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on that not the SS/SC driver would have to be pretty bad and the SS/NA or sport driver would have to be pretty damn good for an SS/NA or sport driver to even come close
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we are talkin about less then a second, get off ur high horse bud, ive raced them before in my 2.4 at the track, i lost but not by how ur trying to describe it
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Just buy an SS/SC if it pisses you off so much that they're faster. Holy Jesus.



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