There may be no lag from V8's w/ rear mounts but what about lag w/ 4 cylinders (mainly the 2.4 considering thats what this whole thread was started as not a bitch fest about turbo set-ups) with rear mounts? And i was always under the impression that rear mounts are really for cars with no room under the hood for a turbo set-up, a problem no 4cyl should have

 

WoW when i started this thread i didnt expect a bunch of people who are as small minded as the size of their engines... I am the type of person who likes to look at all possible ways to improve a system for cheaper and when i heard about this system I thought wow could that be done without a kit, taking away the inflated price. I like many other people like to think outside the box and like to use my own ideas in a chance to create horsepower. Granted there are set backs to the system which people ahve made heard. The artical that got me onto the track of a remote turbo system was actually used on an HHR 2.2 and it shaved some where around 4 tenths off there quarter mile run. Yeah thats not huge in the world of 8 second cars but we are talking 16 to 20 grand vehicles and not all of us can run out and aim for that anyways. Sure the kit is not for everyone I just thought it would be an interesting idea. Stop the hating and stop the negative thinking.

 

Brian and I bolth have turbocharged cars, so I think we know what we are talking about. The remote mount turbo is more expensive and don't work as well. Now answer me this question, if i took the turbo in my car and moved it to the back would my car be faster or slower?????











































I thought so, now shut your trap.

 

They do make power, but it goes against every design parameter.

There is "Thinking Out Of The Box" which is often good.

Then there is this... AC

 

Your Kung Foo is weak and you only see things from your point of view. Relax a bit.

 

 

HA HA, Good One Fonzie..

 

It's basically functional but the easy way out to build a turbo kit. Weld a couple of flanges and make some pipes. It is better than nothing, hell Boost is Boost. I just want to express to anyone who is planning to do this to their car that it is not a well designed turbo system.

It works but it's not good.

 

Yeah, Small minded.

Think of this as the "Least Good" way to build a turbo kit.

Build your kit this way if you want, I don't care, but it's Marginally Exceptional.

 

My mom has a 91 Dodge Shadow turbo... is she now qualified to talk about what turbo system designs trump others ?

Sorry I dont mean to call you out... but that has got to be the weakest response ever.

 

if i remember correctly, doesnt Wasey have a WRX STI? Imprezzas are turbo as it is..... i dont think i need to explain why an STI would own an SRT4

 

It's called All Wheel Drive. By the way i have beaten STI's from a role.

 

So you agreee that a remote turbo is better then a then a turbo connected th an exhaust manifold???

The reason i said that is B/C some of the people have eather N/A, or an S/C car and have no clue what lag is.

 

Come on the Wasey gun, That was funny! Well maybe not for you. And yes there are tons of things I don't know about, what’s your point, trying to insinuate that you know more than I do, please! What I do know is that, your on a cobalt forum with you're STI, starting arguments with cobalt drivers. What, you didn’t find the STI forum funny so you left, or was it no one thought anything of you at all, and they didn’t want you. Either way I suggest you learn your place, and "stop talking".

By the way once again I have to repeat things for those that are a lil slow, I never said it didn’t work.

Not funny? I guess I'm not as funny as, say having pink on my car.

 

Wasey, I want you to read this completely and not jump to assumptions.

It (Rear Mount) will work, so we agree on that.

If you think it's that great why not move your turbo to the trunk.

The reality is that if your Scooby had the turbo in the back it wouldn't perform anywhere as well as it does currently. Subaru, like all the other companies that are involved in racing, spend many millions a year on R&D for "Out Of The Box" ways to make the fastest most reliable cars to win races. You are telling me that they have never thought of this? That they have never tried to make this work? That in the near future, all turbocharged cars will be set up any diferently than they are now? This Magic Design will revoloutionalise the Forced Induction universe?

The reason it's there, is that it's the Best location for it, The simplest, The most Reliable and most importantly, the best perforing turbo design that can be currently achieved.

So understand. I don't troll the forum offering out of date or BS information. Everything I say here is meant to make people think about why and how, not to flame people. The idea of a rear mounted turbo is just a poorly planned idea. Basically, anyone making a kit would be selling themselves way short if they decided to cheap out and go the easy way. There are turly great ideas out there. This is simply not one of them...

 

Aight you guys are currently talking about cars that already come with turbos. That defeats the purpose of the kit in general. The kit in my understanding is for people who wanna turbo there car without doing exstensive mods.

 

no not at all. I think a traditional setup is a much better idea. I do however think that a remote mounted system is a viable alternative if you going to be running low boost. We are talking about this in the context of a 2.4L SS... I dont think your gonna wanna run more then 6 or 7lbs on a stock engine anyhow. So all you would need is a small turbo and small boost.... making the lag although present... probably not as great a disadvantage as some are saying it would be.

 

HAHAHA I believe it's a polish design not joking.

 

I am glad to see people took an interest in this. Yeah 4 grand is pricey for soemthing that has alot of set backs, but the other kits i been seeing arnt really any cheaper and they dont even come with intercoolers. And i dont really see any kits for engines such as the 2.4. Start throwing other possibilities out there if you dont like the rear mounting set up. It dont have to be a fight.

 

Iv'e got a 71 Camaro that's had an outdated martin/rajay turbo system installed since 1983 and I bought the car in 2002, That makes me the most knowledgable since mine is the oldest and I've had it the longest!...right?

 

How much longer do you really think it's going to take to fill up a few more feet of piping with compressed air? An engine is capable of pumping a huge amount of air, very quickly. Most of these systems, if designed well will have maybe half a second more lag than a normal well built system...which is basically nothing, but with none of the drawbacks.



Actually Brian started this mess with his insults towards a couple Cobalt owners oppinions and he drives a Mazda. This time Wasey is actually being normal. You're just not happy with Wasey at the moment because he doesnt agree with your oppinion.

 

BullDog71ss, I have no problem with you and never had a problem with Wasey, until he said something like you're doing now. If you read closely you will see that the insults were made jokingly, and not ill haboured by those ppl, and there was also an apology by Brian. I have no problem with other people driving other cars on the forum, as long as they contribute. The only time I will mention their situation is if they have a problem with me.

If you wanna talk about not happy see below

Now we all get carried away sometimes, but like men, u suck it up and move on. And remember stirring the pot is unavoidable.

 

Firts the exhaust has to travel 7-10 feet to spool the turbo then the air has to travel back to the front of the car through an intercooler into the intake 15+ feet. On my car the exhaust has to travel 4-6 inches till it hits the turbo then through about 7-10 feet of piping through the intercooler and to the intakemanifold. With my setup there is some lag, so i can't even imagine the lag on a remote mount turbo.

Oh yeah one more thing since the turbo that is sitting under the car is also an intake once you even hit a small puddle you expect to get water in youe turbo and engine.

 

Blame Brian...

 

so what have we learned here?

Con:Remote turbos 'may' have slightly more lag than normal turbo applications simply by design
Pro: It still makes boost
Con:It might get damaged or warp easier
Pro: Current non turbo owners can benifit from the application
Pro: Current supercharged owners can benifit from the application

Sidenote, some turbo owners dont like the idea and such an application would slow their car down but having and owning a turbo car makes you incredibly intelligent (a joke for those that won't understand why I say that)

We have also learned that the flying car looks cool but WTF and the Wasey gun should be named the Lazy gun for those slow gun slingers that figure they ain't gonna win anyway