Gunney_07

iTrader: (3)

Ok now, im newb and i know it so be easy on me please

now down to nitty gritty, what is the difference between jet pcm stage 1 or even 2 and the new JET V-Force Plus Performance power control unit?


stage 1-2 pcm
http://www.jegs.com/i/JET/561/10708S...748553%7C10373

JET 68021 - JET Power Control Unit Plus & V-Force Plus
http://www.jegs.com/i/JET/561/68021/...61694%7C10373#

the prices are real close , the JET Power Control Unit being $262.99 and the stage 2 pcm at $247.99. What has more hp out put? better shift points?<--(a/t) what about tq increase? what should i get? im itching to get one or the other not sure what one though!?!?

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Projekt

difference is simple..

one is a peice of ****

the other is a bucket of ****

the difference being..the bucket..

Gunney_07

iTrader: (3)

lol you must be a hp tuner guy? i would go that route but im only at 8,600 miles and i want something thats easly removed when needed

Projekt

HPTUNERS can be reflashed to your stock tune...and no one will ever know

celicacobalt

just go hp tuners. You'll be happier.

07LaserBlueSS

Yea you will be happier with HPT

REIGN SS

thanks ********, try answering his question too...

The stage 1-2 PCM is meant to plug into your cars computer and make adjustments on the fly. The JET Power Control Unit appears to be an OBDII Gauge while also making minor ignition and fuel adjustments.

Really IMO, it looks like they do the same thing, except the JET Power Control Unit has the added advantage of displaying some parameters read through the OBDII Port for you to monitor.

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Now that that is over, you will be much more pleased with a tune from a knowledgeable HPTuners user. The gains will be much better because the adjusted parameters will be specific to your car and not a "canned" tune that you get with the Jet Chip Modules.

brickerenator

I have neither, but from reading around, the advantage to Jet is if it screws with your car you can always go back to stock tune instantly
With Hpt unless you have a good tuner, they can really screw your car up as you can't just unplug the thing and return to stock
I tried doing some research on the difference between the stage 2 pcm and the power control unit
I *think* the stage 2 has better gains, but the PCU gives you all of that nice info on your car, maybe you can run both?

Red07SSNA

It's hard to answer these type questions because: 1. No one wants to spend >$800 to try all three to get an idea of which one is better and: 2. Jet Chip doesn't provide any information other then their ads.

I'm not ready to spend >$800 on HPTuners to do it myself, nor is there anyone near me I would trust to tune my car with HPTuners either.

I have the Stage 1 module and I like the increased low end performance and part-throttle response. I'm not going to waste money on a dyno because you can't control the auto (keep it in third gear) to get a nice pull. I tried dynoing an 06 LS auto ($176) and the graph they could print wasn't clear enough to use to prove a bolt-on was better or worse. The tranny downshifts and upshifts regardless of selector position so you get the downshift spikes and upshift drops making it hard to prove a 2-10 HP gain throughout most of the RPM range. I would prefer to run my auto Jet Chip equipped 2.4L against a unmodded auto 2.4L and a HPTuned auto 2.4L to really get an idea of which is better but that isn't likely to happen.

nhanson

iTrader: (1)

well it wouldnt be $800 if you bought the set yourself...like 500 plus some credits...and it would be even cheaper if you buy credits for someone else that knowledgeable and have them do it...

Red07SSNA

Jet Chip Stage 1 module was $239 from JEGS. 10 minute install.

Well....$500 for the basic HPTuners, don't forget a laptop and connections and shipping. Knowledgeable tuner....they're out there somewhere.

Dunkinuts

yeah i really want to try the PCU from Jet but i am not sure if its crap if i want to loose 300 dollars. I still want some research on it before anything is bought.

Gunney_07

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Reign ss thanx for the actual answer lol, i dindt mean tot start a flame war sorry. i think i'll try the obd2 setup and get back with you guys. I should be ordering it this weekend plus jegs fast shipping should be here rby wens or thurs.

Gunney_07

iTrader: (3)

uh ok so jet doesnt offer a power control modules for 2007 2.4 ? only the JET V-Force Plus Performance Module? there web site only list the v-force for the 07, wtf why dont they just give straight answers

rockstar014

sooo lets say you have a cai would it be better to get a stage 2 chip then right?

Gunney_07

iTrader: (3)

Yeah it probly wouldnt hurt any the stage one is for guys who are stock. So you should be fine, you probly wont get 100% of the power gain claimed but when you slap a new exh sys on you'll be sitting pretty.

rockstar014

alright sweetness thanks

Red07SSNA

I have all the bolt-ons and still am using the stage 1 -- I like it. I just made the decision to go one level at-a-time. If the stage 2 turns out to work for others I may try it too.

Apcsox

the stage II I bought was a bad unit, but since JET's customer service sucks complete ass, I retruned it and bought a stage one... I'm happy with it