You're welcome Judge Judy

and they have already answered why they would...even I gave an example why I would.

 

Yeah I kinda caught myself, realized this was dumb and decided to back out of the banter. Dunno why he cares so much about what the 2.4 owners want to do

 

Yoadrien, I like your signature:

WAITING TO BE ABLE TO GO FAST!

 

I bought the car for MANY reasons, going fast was not the top priority at the time of purchase. The $209 car payment with $0 cash down for a new car that looks good and drives great was probably the most important.

 

I know, I can't wait for him to go back!

 

Oh, I see. To make it harder to reach 13's with a cobalt than it should be.

 

Yeah, I do want to go fast. Just not the most important factor at the time of purchase.

 

Me either...

 

mid to low 12's how sweet is that

 

I was speaking directly to your replies about my post. I am pretty sure I can count.

 

God...you're so closed minded it's not even funny.

 

Again, you guys haven't "proven" any of my statements wrong.

 

I would sell my car if it took as much to reach consistant, reliable.13's as it's going to take you. But, I new ahead of time to do it the right way. I knew I was going to want to go fast, so I bought the proper platform.

Let me be "open minded". Yes, I can't wait to spend ALOT of money to make my 2.4 as fast as a 2.0, I like the experience I'll get, it's so unique.

 

In all honesty guys, the 2.4's are nice cars. It's a step up from a base, and has good pep. BUT none of you guys should've bought it with plans to go fast, that's not the reason to buy the car. More and more of you are figuring it out too, look how many are trading UP to a S/C SS! For this "3K" more that you guys are complaining about, you're getting more than just a heck of alot faster car. You're getting a much better handling car as well. By the time you properly build your car to be as fast and handle as good as a 2.0, while keeping it reliable, you'll have spent more than you would've had you just bought the 2.0 in the first place-FACT.

 

Ok so you bought a car that comes STOCK running low 14s if you can drive...not much effort to make it into 13s.

Asking why people want to modify a 2.4 is like asking a Civic Owner why he wants to modify his car or asking why myself, a sunfire owner, wants to make a stock 16 second car faster...IT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO. It's a freakin challenge. I personally find it a greater achievement in making a car that runs mid 16s stock run 13s or lower which I'm on the verge of doing.

And your attempt to be open minded was just sarcasm....here let me be open minded back to you...

"Oh my gawd! I just bought this uber fast car and I put no effort into doing anything to it! I had no type of creative input into it and it's still fast! Holy Green Goblins, my ********* got bigger as soon as I signed on the dotted line cause I heard the supercharger whine from the parking lot!"

I may not own a Cobalt but I sure as hell have more of an insight on why people want to modify a Cobalt or any other car for that fact. If you don't know by now...I got a nickle, buy a clue.

 

And he asked what was handed to him. He doesn't get it.

 

I can respect the fact that you want to make a car fast. But I don't respect the fact that you're argueing about cobalts when you don't own one. Have you even driven the two? If you haven't, you have know business voicing an opinion. It's not like back when you could buy a 2002 Z28 or an SS and not going with the SS to save some money. I got news, getting my car to the 11's is just as much of a challenge if not more than getting a 2.4 to the 13's. My goals are just higher than yours. Sorry, the only way I can relate to modifying a slow car is when I started doing mods to my Silverado, which now runs high 15's. But I figured it out quicker than most, and bought a different car to could go faster.

 

Oh, don't worry, I "get it". You guys are like the fast and the furious. If you guys were true enthusiests, you'd see that taking a 16 second car and making it run 13's isn't impressive. Go to the track, who cares about 13's? It's the 12's and faster that people care about. Have fun modding your cars, I'll be sure to check my rearview once in awhile and see if a 2.4 is behind me.

 

I can understand that you guys just enjoy modding your cars, we all do. It's not just how much faster the 2.0 is out of the box, its how it's so much easier to go faster from that point. I honestly do hope you guys get an aftermarket, and we start seeing some fast 2.4's, I think it will be cool. But don't act like the 2.0 isn't really that much better because it is. Just as much as you guys don't like us acting like the 2.4 is weak, we don't like you acting like there isn't as much of a difference-because there is.

 

I can voice an opinion because I know about these motors and have been modifying an ECOTEC before you even drove one. I don't need to drive a vehicle to know anything about it.

If you honestly can't understand why people would rather invest money into one car than another than you seriously need to take your head out from under the dirt. I'm sure you've probably heard people say "you should have gotten an STI or SRT-4 or EVO" because they don't understand why you would spend money on a limited power source like a supercharger. You like your car, you invest your money into it no matter how fast it is stock....period. There isn't much to understand from there.

By the way, quit telling people that they are going to have to upgrade their pistons if they go turbo and quit saying their transmissions are weak...you have no basis or proof behind it and even when I asked you what type of transmission they have, you ignored my question. Frankly, it's annoying.

Also, no one said my goal ends at 13s...I just used that as an example.

 

I didn't ingore your question, I told you the same getrag as the 2.2. You're annoying. I don't care how many ecotecs you've worked on, if you don't OWN either a 2.0 or a 2.4, you don't have any business in a discussion about 2.4's and 2.0's. You haven't even driven either to understand. Also, apparently you don't know jack about supercharged applications, and don't know jack about the pistons in these motors. My information comes from a source more knowledgeable than you and I together. Besides, GM states my "proof" about the pistons all over the GM sites, and the GM build book. For someone who's been modifying ecotecs for so long, you didn't learn much along the way.

 

I stand corrected you did answer my question...

I know plenty about supercharged applications and about high compressioned pistons but it's not like you would care to know.

I could care less about what GM states. GM plays it safe on alot of things, doesn't mean something isn't possible at reaching.

Too bad I don't own a Cobalt...I'm not allowed to act like a dick like you are. Darn.

Oh and good come back... "you're annoying"...Grow up.

 

 

I had a 3000 roller over plus tax title and registration, ended up financing a total 0f $27000. My car is fully loaded except for the g85 package, and I bought the car in cali.

 

i will admit i originaly wanted a blue ss s/c and i almost pre ordered it.. When i went to buy the 2.4 i saw a silver ss s/c which i fell inlove with but i could not justify like 3k more for what i was getting.. at that point i could have bought myself a used 05 gto and still have lower insurance( for some reason i got quoted lower for the goat than the balt) Im really happy with this car, everyone comments on how quick it is. I like to mod cars but i have no desire of making it a full out racer, this is my daily driver which i like to tweak around with. Other than the basic bolt ons and tunning thats probably as far as i will take the car. Its all preference, and your goals for the car. I wish some of you guys would stop the crap on which engine is better because we both have pretty fricking good engines, nuff said. This reminds me of the old j-body.org 2.4 twin cam vs 2.2 ecotec fights.