2.4L LE5 Performance Tech 16 valve 171 hp EcoTec with 163 lb-ft of torque

Are you concerned with long term reliability of the 2.4?

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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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the quad 4 after 1999 is a good engine i have had 2 both with superchargers on them (stock internals) and had no problem stop bashing the quads man! the 2.3L quad sucked though lol
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
ideally, neither will i. i drive like a little old lady on the way home from costco.

i really do need to get back to the northern states, lol. so, have you got any hot chickies in your group? hopefully some with low standards?

LOL....I'm usually the only female surrounded by one big sausage party. I got my sis to come to the last one but we are both happily engaged. Donna attended one time but she is also happily involved I believe....
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by avro206
I still don't get it. A little engine noise and its no good? I have never heard a 4 cly that sounds good at idle.

I have heard of piston slap on LS1s but nothing else.
The 2.2 Ecotec in our base sedan makes "a little engine noise."

My 2.4, if it is indeed piston slap, basically has it's pistons bouncing around inside the cylinders wearing the linings prematurely.

Piston slap is common on a few GM engines and there is a class action lawsuit going on right now to fix them. GM's response is that if it isn't burning a litre of oil every 1000k then it's acceptable.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bandit2941
The "piston slap" he speaks of is probably just a lifter......
Between 15 years of owning GM cars and 7 years working in a garage, I'm pretty sure I know piston slap when I hear it.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt443
LOL....I'm usually the only female surrounded by one big sausage party. I got my sis to come to the last one but we are both happily engaged. Donna attended one time but she is also happily involved I believe....
drat
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 06G5GT
The 2.2 Ecotec in our base sedan makes "a little engine noise."

My 2.4, if it is indeed piston slap, basically has it's pistons bouncing around inside the cylinders wearing the linings prematurely.

Piston slap is common on a few GM engines and there is a class action lawsuit going on right now to fix them. GM's response is that if it isn't burning a litre of oil every 1000k then it's acceptable.
Piston slap is not as bad as you think is is. My LS1 has a little piston slap when she first starts up. No oil usage problems though.

The reason is the short skirt design of the head, plus the fact that is is aluminum on aluminum so they have to leave a little room for expansion. After 2004 GM switched to a longer skirt design on their small-blocks. Reliability was never affected by piston-slap, it's just annoying sometimes.

"Piston Slap" as you are describing it is not a continous problem only on start up of the motor. Those sound's are most likely a bad lifter or something else
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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if the 2.4 is anywhere near as good as the 3.8 v6 in my 96 berreta then im not worried. it was my first car, i bought a new one when i was 18 but kept the berreta. still have it. 233k miles and still starts and runs smoothly.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by c0al67
if the 2.4 is anywhere near as good as the 3.8 v6 in my 96 berreta then im not worried. it was my first car, i bought a new one when i was 18 but kept the berreta. still have it. 233k miles and still starts and runs smoothly.

i thought berettas were 3.1 litre V6s...

anyways, i've generally found GM engines to last a long time.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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no problems, except for some interior rattles,time will tell how good the car really is.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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mine runs like a pure breed champion. Also when I took off my valve cover to paint it I saw the roller rockers Man O man does a new motor look clean on the inside lol
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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i dont knw where you are getting your problems from....ive yet to have any problems(knock on wood)....besides some minor creaking/craking from inside the car...but i mostly blme that on my listening to musc up real loud and the bass coming from the sub....i mean it cold also be that fact tha i ordered my car and it came straight to me from the factory on a transport...so i dunno but im hpy with mie and i dont think ou car will have many reliabilit issues...im at 3400 miles and shes holdin strong...lol...
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