Incase many of you don't read the 2.0 forums: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/twin-charge-anyone-123476/

This member installed and tested the ZZP twin charge kit and anhilated the stock clutch. SO now he has a newly installed clutch with 200 miles on page 19 showing off some videos. This officially has made it to my "things the cobalt needs" list. Congrats to the OP of that link, and to ZZP.

 

Why would 2.4's be interested in what the 2.0 guys are doing?

Pfft.

 

Use your damn head...

Reasons listed below:

1) Its a cobalt too, no matter the engine size

2) Its from ZZP and they make stuff for our cars.

3) Whatever you do to a 2.0 you can do to a 2.4

4) Because its pretty ****** cool to see a twin charged set-up on any car

****, if it was on a Honda I would still think its cool. As long as the owner isn't a douche bag.

 

Use my damn head? Way to get offensive little girl.

I can care less if its a cobalt. After owning my cobalt for 2 years, putting a full race trans, upped the turbo..only to redowngrade...these cars are ****.

And no..whatever you do to a 2.0 you cant do to a 2.4. **** is setup differently.

Yes, im sure if they gave me the kit, I could make it work, but it wont just 'bolt right up' even if I had the supercharger.

Dont patronize me little boy, clearly you dont know a damn thing.

 

Little girl? Oh and a little boy?

Heh, your pretty e-tough...

I was being sarcastic, sorry it came across as being offensive.

But I never said it would bolt right up. And just because "****" is set up different, you can't say it won't work. Of course you have to upgrade internals, tranny parts, suspension, braking, etc...

You CAN supercharge you 2.4L, you CAN turbo charge you 2.4L (as you have, and I love turbo-charged sedan's) and you sure as hell could twin-charge it with some work done on the engine for any route you choose.

If you can make it work, then I can make it work and I plan to. No where have I ever said I know everything there is to know about an engine. I have however said that I know a decent amount and plan to learn more and as much as I can. I also said I would like to build my own engine so it may be able to handle the twin charge kit. Now please, don't patronize me. I was just trying to point out the ZZP twin charge kit on a car and working. Its pretty sweet if you ask me. It would be nice to see that kit tested on a 2.4 (ZZP is looking for a car to test it on if anyone is interested.)

 

im not even reffering to brakes / internals / tranny / suspension.

Im reffering to as i said...****. the coolant tanks, the hoses, etc. the **** that surrounds the motor.

Yes, anything is possible with enough ingenuity(sp?).

Sorry for the burst of my eThug.

In all honesty, in my opinion, twincharging is pointless to me. The gain in low end torque doesnt justify the price vs just upgrading the turbo.

But what do I know, im 23 and work for a living.

 

so.. how's that sale of you turbo kit going and your free huge turbo from garret .. seriously GTFO.. yes it can be done to the 2.4 with very little work.. people have swapped the m62 onto the 2.4 without much difficulty grow up.. just cuz you have a boosted car (albeit that you didn't really do much work to make you bought a kit.. ) stop shitting on other peoples ideas i think it would be crazy however i wouldn't do it myself .. honestly it might be a better idea to do on an ion as there's a bit more room under the hood just to get everything settled

and just cuz it's a 2.0 doesn't mean we shouldn't be interested.. someone who's into cars will be interested no matter what if it's something cool

 

Understood, and point taken.

The ingenuity part would mostly be taken out of the process if ZZP had a kit put together for the 2.4 car. But as I mentioned earlier, they are looking for someone to test it on. I'm a little liery about letting them put 400+ HP thru my stock 2.4 engine. If I had a built engine that would be a different story. I'm willing to spend that money though, its just gonna be over a period of a couple years.

I'm 21 and I work for my money too. unfortunately money doesn't go very far anymore, unless you got a lot of it

BTW, I meant to ask you earlier, where did you get your racing tranny from?

With money out of the equation, that twin-charge kit is pretty damn cool.

 

Are you reffering to the sale where the purchaser couldnt understand simple instructions as to it would take 1 month for me to get it all off and back to stock before i sent him, instead he started calling and harrassing my wife 2 weeks in? He disputed...I didnt even fight it.


The moral of the story with this thread was that its not designed for the 2.4. Its not a 'direct bolt on'. Please read the entire post. Hell, the guy I was 'arguing' with even saw my point. So before you come out of left field with your big dick mentality, try to comprehend what is going on.


The stock 2.4L ECOTec has handled over 400whp. HAHN did it as a 'test' on the solstice..but detuned it for the 'we dont know how long it will last' factor, but solstice owners have pumped it up pretty high and are still running strong.

However, it really comes down to the tune. The internals might be able to handle 400whp with a good tune...but it wont be able to handle it with a shitty tune.

The race tranny was bought from (i think) IPT Transmissions..or JPT...somethin like that.

Was approx $2800.

Im not impressed by ZZP yet to want to put such a kit on my car.

Im pretty much done with cars...especially getting my bike.

 

couldn't this kit be retro fitted with a few piping changes to be made a straight turbo kit for the 2.4?

 

They are working on making a kit for the 2.4. If what you mean is a turbo only kit for your 2.4, I'm sure they can work something out for you.

I know there are 2.4's running over 400HP, but the stock internals aren't all rated for that high of an HP. I'm sure that is why ZZP wants a "lab rat." For both testing the strength of internal parts with their awesome kit, and to build a kit that bolts up to the 2.4. Thats the same thing they would have had to do for the 2.0 Cobalt.

 

well just looking at the lay out of the twin charge kit, you wouldn't need much to convert it to just a turbo just for the 2.4

 

I'm in MI, if they give me a free kit I'll let them install one on my car lol...

 

Yeah but that would be pointless when you can just get the hahn turbo kit, or build your own. It would be way cheaper to build your own kit.

Same here man, except I'm in NY, lol.

 

Doubt it.


I know HAHN wanted me to pay $2800 for me to be their guinnea pig.

That $2,800 was basically the cost of parts. Not including labor / R&D.

 

Yeah, I'm not stupid, I know there is know way in hell that would happen!

I've been into modding sport compacts for almost 10 years...

They way it usually works is they give you a "free professional install and tuning" and you pay for what the kit costs.

Hence the "lol" at the end.

I'd rather piece together something better and have my sisters boyfriend's shop fab everything, use HP Tuners, and tune it on the dyno, but I'm broke...

They've already made 450+ whp on a 2.4L auto Ion, damn them having to be in Canadia...

 

wat happened to the zzp twincharging kit they sold on their website?!?! since they changed their website around i cant find it anywhere and the links dont work to it! noooo!! just when i was thinking of getting one! i have to custom make my own now...i dont wanna. lol

 

stick with one or the other....

 

must have zero turbo lag! and large powerband! but higher than 350hp!

 

they stopped making it

 

Is there a need to bump the dust off every singe twincharge thread?

 

im contacting someone at zzp. for the right price im sure they would still do another.

 

they'll still advise against it.