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after reading lots on this, i dont know if ill be putting any washer fluid or boost juice in my system.
ive read quite a few accounts where people have pulled their system apart to discover gummed up deposits of dye.
So i think it will be 100% pure methanol and distilled water for me.
ive read quite a few accounts where people have pulled their system apart to discover gummed up deposits of dye.
So i think it will be 100% pure methanol and distilled water for me.
yeah i got a friend with a cavy z24 with a supercharger and he runs pure 100 perfcent meth with distilled water
50/50% mixture i do believe
50/50% mixture i do believe
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let me know if you have any other questions.
Hey Angelo!. Thanks for the plug. You need to show everyone what you have once your done. This is going to be a pretty amazing Cobalt when it's finished.
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its tuned through the maf-t, snow performance uses the same technology.
i should add that through testing, the lsj reacts the best to a wide open spray, instead of a raped rate. When i was running mine before i sold the redline, with a 2.6 full exhaust intake 60's tuned and running 80/20 meth water on a 225 ml jet i hit 294 whp on the heaton!
I had it tuned to begin spraying roughly around 11 psi.
i should add that through testing, the lsj reacts the best to a wide open spray, instead of a raped rate. When i was running mine before i sold the redline, with a 2.6 full exhaust intake 60's tuned and running 80/20 meth water on a 225 ml jet i hit 294 whp on the heaton!
I had it tuned to begin spraying roughly around 11 psi.
What defines and separates a water methanol injection system from another is its controller and the quality of components used through out the system. These are by far the most advanced and versatile controllers on the market with more features built into them then any other competitors controller on the market.
With one controller you can run it on anything from a naturally aspirated vehicle to a turbocharged/supercharged gasoline or diesel application regardless if it's carbureted or EFI. One controller does it all!
Compare for yourself and see the difference.
* 100% digital processor for lighting fast response
* Quick, easy to use adjustment knobs
* The only controller which allows you the ability to manually adjust and change the start pressure, max pressure and curve of the system.
* Heavy-duty metal housing protecting the controllers CPU. Not plastic like other competitors controller.
* Greater range of adjustment then any other controller on the market with the ability to run true 2d Map using MAP, MAF, TPS, EGT or AIT in addition to Boost.
* Built in boost port for carbureted or EFI users who want to run a mechanical boost signal
* Built in serial port for connecting laptop for enhanced tuning features such as running multiple inputs (2d mapping) at once, data logging, saving and locking your settings.
* The only controller which allows you to use any of the following signals; Mechanical boost signal, EGT, TPS, MAP, Mass Air Meter, AIT, ACT or any other 0-5 volt sensor on your engine to base mapping of off.
* The only controller with a built in data logger allowing you to record and review the input signals being ran into the controller. Perfect for those who want to review the systems performance during a racing event, towing, normal daily driving, Etc.
* Built in status monitor which not only indicates when the system is activated but also performs a system function check everytime you turn your car on indicating the systems CPU is operating properly.
* The only controller which comes with free Windows based software
* Unlike the competitors "kits" our "systems" come pre-wired, tested & ready to go ensuring you will not only receive a fully functional system but also saving you the troubles of wiring the system yourself and potentially making a mistake and damaging the controller.
its tuned through the maf-t, snow performance uses the same technology.
i should add that through testing, the lsj reacts the best to a wide open spray, instead of a raped rate. When i was running mine before i sold the redline, with a 2.6 full exhaust intake 60's tuned and running 80/20 meth water on a 225 ml jet i hit 294 whp on the heaton!
I had it tuned to begin spraying roughly around 11 psi.
i should add that through testing, the lsj reacts the best to a wide open spray, instead of a raped rate. When i was running mine before i sold the redline, with a 2.6 full exhaust intake 60's tuned and running 80/20 meth water on a 225 ml jet i hit 294 whp on the heaton!
I had it tuned to begin spraying roughly around 11 psi.
With one controller you can run it on anything from a naturally aspirated vehicle to a turbocharged/supercharged gasoline or diesel application regardless if it's carbureted or EFI. One controller does it all!
Compare for yourself and see the difference.
* 100% digital processor for lighting fast response
* Quick, easy to use adjustment knobs
* The only controller which allows you the ability to manually adjust and change the start pressure, max pressure and curve of the system.
* Heavy-duty metal housing protecting the controllers CPU. Not plastic like other competitors controller.
* Greater range of adjustment then any other controller on the market with the ability to run true 2d Map using MAP, MAF, TPS, EGT or AIT in addition to Boost.
* Built in boost port for carbureted or EFI users who want to run a mechanical boost signal
* Built in serial port for connecting laptop for enhanced tuning features such as running multiple inputs (2d mapping) at once, data logging, saving and locking your settings.
* The only controller which allows you to use any of the following signals; Mechanical boost signal, EGT, TPS, MAP, Mass Air Meter, AIT, ACT or any other 0-5 volt sensor on your engine to base mapping of off.
* The only controller with a built in data logger allowing you to record and review the input signals being ran into the controller. Perfect for those who want to review the systems performance during a racing event, towing, normal daily driving, Etc.
* Built in status monitor which not only indicates when the system is activated but also performs a system function check everytime you turn your car on indicating the systems CPU is operating properly.
* The only controller which comes with free Windows based software
* Unlike the competitors "kits" our "systems" come pre-wired, tested & ready to go ensuring you will not only receive a fully functional system but also saving you the troubles of wiring the system yourself and potentially making a mistake and damaging the controller.
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now im already running a N2O setup. small shot 35-50 depending on the day. what precautions if any do i need to take when running your setup on a DD car. mind you i only spray bout once every month or two
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Nitrous is a great power adder. However, it does not serve well as a detonation deterrent. Nitrous makes the combustion process more unstable while also speeding it up. Which is why the use of ignition retard is generally needed. While water methanol is not a substantial power adder on it's own as nitrous, it does serve very well as a tool for users to dramatically increase their boost levels in which they could normally not have done so without. In addition , it dramatically reduces the chance of detonation and pushes the point of which it would normally occur. Thereby greatly reducing unnecessary engine failures.
heres a dumb question but i would love to no.. would this have problems pasting emissions/inspections?? sorry to ask a dumb question but i would like to no..
I like it a lot to, will be looking into it when i get my turbo..
I like it a lot to, will be looking into it when i get my turbo..
Nitrous is a great power adder. However, it does not serve well as a detonation deterrent. Nitrous makes the combustion process more unstable while also speeding it up. Which is why the use of ignition retard is generally needed. While water methanol is not a substantial power adder on it's own as nitrous, it does serve very well as a tool for users to dramatically increase their boost levels in which they could normally not have done so without. In addition , it dramatically reduces the chance of detonation and pushes the point of which it would normally occur. Thereby greatly reducing unnecessary engine failures.
I know this is gonna depend on average daily driving and how you drive your car, but with a 1.5 gallon tank and normal driving (occasionally getting on it
) how often to you think i would need to refill the mix?
) how often to you think i would need to refill the mix?
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It does cool air charge temps more then water methanol injection. However, it leans the motor out more. Nitrous Oxide is 2 molecules of nitrogen with one molecule of oxygen. (36% oxygen by weight). During the combustion process, at about 570 degrees F, nitrous breaks down and releases oxygen which in turns leans out the air fuel mixture.
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It depends on what you put in the container. Running pure water or 50/50 water methano has not shown to negatively effect emissions. How ever if your running 100% mathanol and untuned your engine will run very rich. Keep in mind it's very easy to disable the system during emissions testing.
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We use the Shurflo 150 psi pump that has been modified for use with 100% methanol
Aside from keeping the container filled and not letting it run out of fluid and suck air. The only other precautions would be if you decide to run 100% we suggest upgrading to our stainless steel hose kit.
Are you running any ignition retard when your nitrous system is fired off? You may not be with such a small shot. Running a water methanol injection system would provide you with a substantial octane enhancement thereby allowing you to run your nitrous system with no ignition retard. That is if you are running any to begin with.
Are you running any ignition retard when your nitrous system is fired off? You may not be with such a small shot. Running a water methanol injection system would provide you with a substantial octane enhancement thereby allowing you to run your nitrous system with no ignition retard. That is if you are running any to begin with.
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at the moment no im not retarding the ignition at all. the nitrous is a small shot b/c its mostly for show (dual led purge kit). but i like the idea of using meth to have what seems to be the going hp number around 280 without the bottle



