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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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the reason the intake pipe is like that is because i have an ion redline...same basis, it's the stock routing path. anywho, i cleaned off the MAF like you said, and yes it was initially wet, along with some drops of water on the inside of the intake pipe. the code has not come back yet, but i am still getting some hesitation. i will find out the size of the nozzle next. thanks



the thing is, the maf works fine after i clean it off/dry it off and reinstall it and don't spray. then right when i spray, i get the code and the hesitation.

thanks to both you guys with your help so far, i do appreciate it.
Lets find out what size nozzle you have and go from there?

Additionally, after reviewing your picture where you had the nozzle previously installed, you were spraying directly across from the mass air as I now noticed the mass air flange directly across from it. That had everything to do with your initial problems.
Old Feb 19, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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Lets find out what size nozzle you have and go from there?

Additionally, after reviewing your picture where you had the nozzle previously installed, you were spraying directly across from the mass air as I now noticed the mass air flange directly across from it. That had everything to do with your initial problems.
yep you're right, however it didnt look like it would spray at the maf when i had the pipe off, guess i was wrong!

is the place where the injector is now alright? i also moved the checkvalve to JUST before the injector, so nothing will leak like it probably was before

i'll keep you updated when i find the nozzle size. thanks again
Old Feb 19, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hawlyns711
yep you're right, however it didnt look like it would spray at the maf when i had the pipe off, guess i was wrong!

is the place where the injector is now alright? i also moved the checkvalve to JUST before the injector, so nothing will leak like it probably was before

i'll keep you updated when i find the nozzle size. thanks again
Due to the design of your cold air intake and the type of supercharger we are working with, we will have to determine if this nozzle location will cure your issues.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 01:57 AM
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The whole talk about Meth has caught my attention.... So i am considering putting it on the Balt. Can someone please explain to me why this SS/SC has the meth tapped straight into the blower? Any particular reason?
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 04:27 AM
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I can answer that for you. That car was mine and at the time of the install we had been waiting on the spacer from CA for 3 weeks and it never did show up lol. And we needed to test the kit ASAP so that's why we did that. Oh and that was the first Cobalt in the world to have that AIS kit lol
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by euthanasia
I can answer that for you. That car was mine and at the time of the install we had been waiting on the spacer from CA for 3 weeks and it never did show up lol. And we needed to test the kit ASAP so that's why we did that. Oh and that was the first Cobalt in the world to have that AIS kit lol
We generally recommend installing the nozzle in the cold air pipe just before the throttle body rather then actually drilling and tapping the snout of the supercharger. There's nothing wrong with doing it this way. However, when you do you should relocated the check valve from the rear behind the nozzle.

Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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Is this systems similer to how the N20 system works were you have to push a button for it to work or does it free flow? also how easy or hard is it to install?
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Is this systems similer to how the N20 system works were you have to push a button for it to work or does it free flow? also how easy or hard is it to install?
No you do not push a button to activate it. Depending on which system you use. It will automatically activate based on a desired boost setting you select or you can use your mass air signal with our Stage 2 progressive system in which you can set start and full points based off of your mass air flow sensor output.
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Is it easy to install and with my intake, exhaust and the tune I have what do you think the gain would be ?
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by HawkMThe
Is it easy to install and with my intake, exhaust and the tune I have what do you think the gain would be ?
This system is extremely easy to install. Unlike competitors systems we fully assemble, pre-wire and test each system before it's packaged. Furthermore, since it's all one unit all you need to do is choose a location in your trunk to mount the system.

Additionally, with our all new black anodized aluminum tank straps the installation has become even faster. This replaces the previously supplied adjustable rubber straps which were included with each system.





Be sure to check out Cobalt SS forum member "hungryhip-ccp" of Lancaster, CA and his custom 2007 Cobalt SS Click on the link below to see ore pictures of his car as well as a picture of our system in his rear spare tire space.

"hungryhip-ccp" of Lancaster, CA Custom 2007 Cobalt SS

Old Feb 21, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by euthanasia
I can answer that for you. That car was mine and at the time of the install we had been waiting on the spacer from CA for 3 weeks and it never did show up lol. And we needed to test the kit ASAP so that's why we did that. Oh and that was the first Cobalt in the world to have that AIS kit lol
Thanks for answering me.... So i can install this kit just like the others, into the intake tubing? BTW what does the module look like that controls the system? I know you set it to a certain lb of boost to activate but im not familiar with it.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Thanks for answering me.... So i can install this kit just like the others, into the intake tubing? BTW what does the module look like that controls the system? I know you set it to a certain lb of boost to activate but im not familiar with it.
If you look closely at the picture above you will notice we have already epoxied the boost switch to the pump on Stage 1 systems. For Stage 2 system we use a progressive controller which looks like this below.





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Originally Posted by AIS
This system is extremely easy to install. Unlike competitors systems we fully assemble, pre-wire and test each system before it's packaged. Furthermore, since it's all one unit all you need to do is choose a location in your trunk to mount the system.

Additionally, with our all new black anodized aluminum tank straps the installation has become even faster. This replaces the previously supplied adjustable rubber straps which were included with each system.





Be sure to check out Cobalt SS forum member "hungryhip-ccp" of Lancaster, CA and his custom 2007 Cobalt SS Click on the link below to see ore pictures of his car as well as a picture of our system in his rear spare tire space.

"hungryhip-ccp" of Lancaster, CA Custom 2007 Cobalt SS

Cool thanks but what is the gains that I could see?
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by HawkMThe
Cool thanks but what is the gains that I could see?
Gains largely depend on the type of additional modifications and base horsepower to begin with as well as tuning. Typically our member will pick up 15-20 horsepower at the tires. Furthermore, water methanol injection is more then a performance enhancer. It also adds an additional layer of protection against detonation thereby helping to eliminate engine damaging detonation.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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you won't see a gain without tuning the ecm to compensate for it.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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Now Available: Stainless Steel Single And Dual Nozzle Water Methanol Injection Kits

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Pre-assembled "single" and "dual" nozzle stainless steel hose assemblies. This is the same -4 nitrous line with the exception we have made a change to the inner hose so that is compatible for use with 100% methanol. This kits are designed to replace the plastic fluid line of our rear trunk mount systems. These stainless steel hose assemblies may be used with other manufactures water methanol injection systems. However, we can not guarantee it will fit other companies nozzle holders or check valves.




AIS Stainless Steel Single Nozzle Hose Assembly

16 ft -4 Stainless steel hose
100% compatible with methanol
Fully assembled - swivel fittings already installed
Blue anodized AN fittings
Includes adapter NPT to AN adapter fittings

*Does not included nozzle holder. For use with our systems which already include a nozzle holder


Price $109.99












AIS Stainless Steel Dual Nozzle Hose Assembly

Two individual 9" -4 stainless steel hose assemblies
100% compatible with methanol
Fully assembled - swivel fittings already installed
Blue anodized AN -4 tee fitting
Blue anodized AN hose fittings
Two nickel plated nozzle holders
Two blue anodized NPT to AN adapter fittings


Price $59.99

Old Feb 22, 2008 | 07:09 AM
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whats the point of dual nozzles.
Old Feb 22, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by skymynx
whats the point of dual nozzles.
For the Cobalt's, its not necessary other then for the look of it. When we start dealing with high horsepower non-intercooled applications over 650 horsepower, we use dual nozzles to better support these engines. With 1000+ applications it's simply mandatory. For one, its for better atomization as we can take one large nozzle such as a 12 or 14 and cut it in half by running two number 6's or 7's. This makes for a better atomization on turbo and centrifugal applications. Two, the motor is making so much horsepower we have to in order to effectively support it.

Additionally, it may be a dual carburetor or dual throttle body application in which needs two nozzle to receive a proper distribution.





Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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We see a lot of discussions going on about water methanol on the forum. If you have questions give us a call or read through some of the many questions already asked to see if your questions has already been answered.
Old Feb 29, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by hawlyns711
the thing is, the maf works fine after i clean it off/dry it off and reinstall it and don't spray. then right when i spray, i get the code and the hesitation.

thanks to both you guys with your help so far, i do appreciate it.
Just a thought, have you pulled the nozzle out and tested it off the engine? If it's clogged or damaged, it might be causing the water to splash instead of mist, which could be causing the problem. Try removing the nozzle from the intake and spraying it. Can't hurt to check it.
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Originally Posted by FunkyStickman
Just a thought, have you pulled the nozzle out and tested it off the engine? If it's clogged or damaged, it might be causing the water to splash instead of mist, which could be causing the problem. Try removing the nozzle from the intake and spraying it. Can't hurt to check it.
i thought of that, done it a couple of times with no clog. besides, the system is working pretty primo right now. i'm just curious if i can go down to a 2.8" from my 2.9" and be safe on the gm stage tune
Old Feb 29, 2008 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hawlyns711
i thought of that, done it a couple of times with no clog. besides, the system is working pretty primo right now. i'm just curious if i can go down to a 2.8" from my 2.9" and be safe on the gm stage tune
Yes you can drop down from your 2.9 to 2.8 running a 50/50 mix of water methanol with at least a size 6 nozzle.
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Yes you can drop down from your 2.9 to 2.8 running a 50/50 mix of water methanol with at least a size 6 nozzle.
how many GPH is a size 6 nozzle btw?
Old Mar 4, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by hawlyns711
how many GPH is a size 6 nozzle btw?
Our number 6 nozzle flows 6 GPH at 150psi.
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