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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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Does buyhids pay for my car in the event that their product fails and torches it?
Does DDM?
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kingg5
do you really feel comfortable cheaping out on a product that could very well burn your car to the ground? You get what you pay for man...this is true for almost everything in life.
DDM isnt really cheaping out. Ebay is cheaping out.

however buyhids and DDM are both good companies so drop this **** and let the man get back to his issues.





Now to the op. It still is sounding like a relay problem to me. But as I do not have the same setup im not sure.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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Seriously. And stop essing vendor's deees. You're not gonna get a hand-out.

And kingg5, that was not a serious questions. Neither company would.

Some people are so freaking blind, I swear.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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Gonna say a few things here. The reason I support buyhids is that I've had to use their customer support, and they've fixed MY screw ups at their expense, and were very plesent about the whole thing. I have gotten defective bulbs from DDM SEVERAL times, and had to fight them to get my money back. I firmly believe in you get what you pay for, and I've never had a counter example prove me wrong. Also, you wanna see how good the bulb quality is? Look at the amount of salts in the chamber in the bulbs. DDMs bulbs are almost completely clear, causing them to run hotter. Buyhids bulbs are much better, and if you look at an OEM hid bulb, which can cost over $100 for just a set of bulbs, the chamber is completely filled with salts, making the bulbs run very cool. Example of you get what you pay for. Ebay bulbs are just as good as DDMs bulbs, they're both just as hit or miss. All aftermarket bulbs are as a matter of fact, weather they come from buyhids, DDM, or even the more expensive 3bspec. however not all aftermarket kits are the same, Some are better, and the more expensive they are, the more reliable they usually are.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TommypSS/TC
Gonna say a few things here. The reason I support buyhids is that I've had to use their customer support, and they've fixed MY screw ups at their expense, and were very plesent about the whole thing. I have gotten defective bulbs from DDM SEVERAL times, and had to fight them to get my money back. I firmly believe in you get what you pay for, and I've never had a counter example prove me wrong. Also, you wanna see how good the bulb quality is? Look at the amount of salts in the chamber in the bulbs. DDMs bulbs are almost completely clear, causing them to run hotter. Buyhids bulbs are much better, and if you look at an OEM hid bulb, which can cost over $100 for just a set of bulbs, the chamber is completely filled with salts, making the bulbs run very cool. Example of you get what you pay for. Ebay bulbs are just as good as DDMs bulbs, they're both just as hit or miss. All aftermarket bulbs are as a matter of fact, weather they come from buyhids, DDM, or even the more expensive 3bspec. however not all aftermarket kits are the same, Some are better, and the more expensive they are, the more reliable they usually are.
The longer a bulb runs, the more visible the salts will be, they vaporize and settle over and over again-condensing. If they weren't in there, you wouldn't have HIDs. A BRAND NEW bulb may have very very little to NO visible salt in there. All a visible salt on a new kit really means is that it was ignited at one time. How would they run hotter? Can you link me to an article, I would like to learn more? Thank you for your input.
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Old Nov 26, 2010 | 11:55 PM
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here's where I was referring to with the salt thing. Specifically this part. Excellent read. There's tons to be learned on HID Planet.

Everything you ever wanted to know about HID bulbs..

Salts: Myths and Questions
Myth: The amount of salts denotes the age of the bulb.
This is partially false. The amount of salt does not really change with one caveat. The volume does increase slightly due to the sputtering of the electrodes, but it is not really that noticable. More importantly, the salts will turn more gray overtime as the metal from the electrodes is sputtered into the mixture of salts.

Myth: Visible Salts are a bad thing.
Competely FALSE. The salts are what actually produce the light in the bulb. Less salts mean a bulb that runs hotter.

Myth: Changing the salts prevents color shifting.
This is completely false. The blue you see in color shifting is the same blue you see at start-up. It is due to a type of light emission around the tips of the electrodes. By changing the shape or make of the electrode, you can design a bulb that will not turn bluer as the electrode is sputtered and deformed or where the blue emission is in a location where the projector will not pick it up.

Why are there salts in a bulb?
The salts actually produce the light in the bulb. When the bulb first fires, it fires at around 25kV. This is required to start the arc. At first, the blue you see is from a type of emission around the two electrodes. As the arc continues the temperature in the arc chamber rises, vaporizing the salts. These vaporized salts are then ionized by the arc into a plasma. This plasma is what emits light. It also serves to allow the required arc voltage to drop to around 84V.

What are some of the salts used in HID bulbs

Common Salts and their colors for HID
Sodium Iodide - White
Thallium Iodide - yellow crystals that become red at 170oC
Scandium Iodide - yellow powder
Dysprosium Iodide - deep yellow powder
Indium Iodide - deep red-brown color
Mercury Iodide - Yellow
The last one may or may not be added, but it may form due to the presence of iodide from the other salts.

More rare salts:
Cerium Iodide-Yellow
Neodymium Iodide - Green
Holmium Iodide - yellow
Erbium Iodide - Pink
Thulium Iodide - Yellow
Gadolinium Iodide - yellow
Ytterbium Iodide - yellow
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 12:06 AM
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I've come across that before back when I was absorbing as much information as I could about HIDs. Very good read. Thanks again. Wow. We miffed this thread all to hell. Sorry OP.
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 08:36 AM
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good point Tommy
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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this still doesn't mean the kits aren't good. Anyway. Did OP fix his issue?
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Nacademus
this still doesn't mean the kits aren't good. Anyway. Did OP fix his issue?
whatever you say man. /thread
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 09:10 AM
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Don't you have some fires to put out? //thread

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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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The kill of the laughing Smiley is back....
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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True story. Snuffed out by the smiley. I feel so violated.
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Nacademus
Don't you have some fires to put out? //thread

that makes no sense... do you have a hard time dropping it?
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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As do you? Especially being a vendor?
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
As do you? Especially being a vendor?
Boy I really can't wait to meet you someday........
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 07MetallicSC
As do you? Especially being a vendor?
I did, maybe you missed my post?? I quoted it for you..

Originally Posted by mkulrey13
whatever you say man. /thread
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcrash603
Boy I really can't wait to meet you someday........
Why's that? You gonna beat him up or something?

I wonder if ZZP threatens people who question their product.
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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Lets try something new guys? keep threads on topic OMG WHAT AN IDEA!
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nacademus
Why's that? You gonna beat him up or something?

I wonder if ZZP threatens people who question their product.
Where did I make a threat?

You've never wanted to meet someone you've talked to online?

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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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Where did I make a threat?

You've never wanted to meet someone you've talked to online?

We all know damn well what you meant. Don't play games, dude.
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nacademus
We all know damn well what you meant. Don't play games, dude.
Hes a celeb on ss.net why WOULDNT you want to meet him? Cleanest blue balt around!

Last edited by mkulrey13; Nov 27, 2010 at 12:53 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nacademus
We all know damn well what you meant. Don't play games, dude.
I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcrash603
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Then play dumb. I'd like to meet you too, but I don't think you would like to meet me.

Being a vendor here is a privilege, not a right. Just remember that.
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Nacademus
Then play dumb. I'd like to meet you too, but I don't think you would like to meet me.

Being a vendor here is a privilege, not a right. Just remember that.
Oh I LOVE meeting new people! Maybe in the spring when I go back to Carrollton to visit family I can drive the 75 miles up to Brunswick and we can have a little chat! That would be FUN!
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