Hey guys I called up Pye Chevrolet today in Truro.. They told me they didn't have any fluid for our car, and the only place in Nova Scotia APPARENTLY is New Minas GM.. They told me they could order it, but would take two weeks, longer then I will be in the province.. I really need to change the fluid before I drive NS-ON.. Anyone know where to get transmission fluid for the SC/TC? Much Appreciated

 

i just bought royal purple tranny fulid when i put my new one in

 

If they can order it, anybody can order it..

 

pretty sure u can get it at any Canadian Tire or any other automotive shop.

 

I put Royal Purple in mine. Works great!

Stu

 

I heard royal purple is bad for our transmission, and crappy tire does not have the proper fluid, yes any shop can order it? But it takes two weeks and I need it before the 19th

 

oh by the way... what royal purple fluid did you put in the manual transmission fluid, or the ATF... cause at the shop they told me to use royal purple ATF,

 

never heard of straight ATF but i know some people do a 50:50 blend.

 

I wouldn't put ATF in a SS/TC ever. The correct fluid is synthetic 75w85, Castrol BOT 402.

Technical Data Sheet
CASTROL BOT 402
DESCRIPTION / APPLICATION:
Castrol BOT 402 is a fully synthetic SAE 75W-85 manual transmission fluid.
Castrol BOT 402 can be recommended for most manual transmissions where API GL-4 lubricants are required. Castrol BOT 402 meets Opel’s requirements for use in the manual transmission of all front wheel drive (FWD) and rear wheel drive (RWD) passenger cars worldwide.
BENEFITS:
• Smoother and easier gear shift due to a combination of reduced shifting forces and optimal synchronisation.
• Reduced torque loss increases efficiency over all transmission load ranges.
• Increased wear protection of synchronizer and bearings during startup phase.
• Fuel saving potential – less fuel consumption means lower emissions.
• Improved shift comfort and prevention of “synchroniser clash” during gear change at a wide range of ambient temperatures and operating conditions.
• Extended synchroniser life reduces warranty and maintenance costs.
• Optimal lubrication of transmission components enhances performance and life.
• Maintains noise reduction (eg : in-gear rattle; idling rattle), improved driver satisfaction.
• Excellent transmission cleanliness and longer oil life permit decreased servicing.
• Longer oil and component life permit extended drain and decreased servicing.
• Helps protect surface of moving parts, extending transmission life.
• Helps avoid oil leakages, reducing repair costs.
• Better environmental compatibility – easier waste oil disposal and recyclability.
FEATURES:
• Excellent cold flow properties combined with balanced frictional characteristics.
• Excellent synchroniser performance and maintained frictional properties during lifetime.
• High shear stability.
• Excellent thermal and oxidative stability.
• Temperature reduction through reduced friction.
• Good anti-pitting behaviour
• Good seal compatibility.
• Free from chlorine and heavy metals.
Page 2 of Data sheet
SPECIFICATIONS AND APPROVALS:
• SAE 75W-85
• API GL-4
• Meets Opel specification B 040 2071
TYPICAL CHARACTERISTICS:
Castrol BOT 402
Product Code 12625
Density at 15°C (kg/l) 0.871
Colour Red
Viscosity at 40°C (mm˛/s) 75.6
Viscosity at 100°C (mm˛s) 13.1
Viscosity Index 178
Viscosity at -10şC (mm˛s) 1.435
Brookfield Viscosity at -40şC (mPa.s) 48.200
Pour Point (şC) -45
Flash Point (şC) 220
FZG A8.3/90 (Load Stage) 12
Taper Roller Bearing (TRB) Test
Viscosity at 100şC after 192 hours TRB (mm˛s) 11.0

 

Redline MT-85 75W85 GL-4 Gear Oil maybe a possible substitute, but I would personally stick with the GM recommended fluid.

GM is VERY specific about stating that any transmission with no-lift-shift capabilities should never use any fluid other than the recommended fluid.

 

well i have an ss/sc, GM has to order it, Guys at Serious Sounds Truro told me to do ATF, I shook my head and walked out.. I've heard of the castrol fluid to be the perfect substitute

 

look into the gm fluid, pretty sure its an atf....

 

The F35 is a Saab-designed five-speed manual transaxle built in Saab’s Gothenburg, Sweden, powertrain plant. This extensively tested manual transmission was originally introduced in the 1984 Saab 9000, and today it is used in the Saab 9-3 and 9-5, Chevrolet Cobalt SS, and various GM/Opel transverse engine front-wheel drive applications.
It weighs approximately 99 lb. (45 kg.) and uses 2 quarts of GM 88862472 gear oil. This gear oil is identified in GM documentation as a synthetic 75W-85 GL-4, Castrol Burmah (BOT 0063) manual transmission fluid, and is validated as "fill-for-life". No maintenance is required for normal operation. The gearbox is rated for 260 ft-lb (353 Nm) of engine torque.
The F35 features a two-axis conventional transverse layout, with fully synchronized gears, and compact packaging. It features a higher torque carrying capacity than most manual transaxles currently in use by competing North American small cars.
Different versions of the transaxle are available depending upon the application. Both cable and rod shift mechanisms are available, as well as application-specific clutch housings. The MU3 and MC2 are differentiated by ratios, with the MC2 available with a lower top-gear ratio.
Design features include triple-cone synchronizers on 1st and 2nd gears, and single-cone synchronizers for 3rd, 4th, 5th and reverse gears.
A limited-slip differential is available for high-output applications. GM has sourced Quaife's automatic torque biasing (ATB) torque-sensing (Torsen-style) differential, which is an all-mechanical geared unit that uses no clutch packs or preloading to transfer torque from one axle to the other. The torque transfer occurs automatically and gradually when one wheel loses traction. This type of differential can severely reduce the effects of torque-steer.
MU3 Gear ratios:
Final Drive 1 2 3 4 5 R
3.82 3.38 1.76 1.18 0.89 0.70 3.17
MC2 Gear ratios:
Final Drive 1 2 3 4 5 R
4.05 3.38 1.76 1.18 0.89 0.70 3.17
Applications:
1984 Saab 9000
2004-2007 Saturn ION Red Line (MC2)
2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged (MC2)
2008-2010 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Turbocharged (MU3)
2008-2010 Chevrolet HHR SS Turbocharged (MC2)
Saab 9-3
Saab 9-5

 

At the top you stated the SS/TC fluid, which is the Castrol BOT 0402. The SS/SC fluid is the Castrol BOT 0063. I actually have 2 quarts of GM 88862472 from when I was going to drain and fill my SS/SC, which I have no use for now. I doubt it would get to you in time to do before the 19th or I would offer to sell it to you.

 

GMs computers come up with the same fluid now for both, they have changed the fluid to the new fluid that was made for the TC and use it on both the SC and TC, hence why I put both up top. The old fluid has just been replaced with the new fluid. I was basically only posting this to see if anyone in the area had access to the GM fluid or knew where to get it other then in new minas, I can justify driving to Halifax for fluid, because then I can kill two birds with one stone.. New Minas on the other hand would be me going there purely for the fluid with nothing else to do when i get there, so wasted trip.

 

roysl purple is only ATF, they dont make a manual tranny one, the ATF says on the back its fine for our trannys, i know people who been runningit in their cars for over 100,000km and its fine, i beat the **** out of my car when i drive it, i ripped 2nd out of it 2 yrs ago using stock fluid, the royal purple is suppose to lubricate better and i have yet to have an issue

 

The original F35 that was in the Saab used 5w30, which a bit closer to ATF. The reason they switched from that to a GL-4 was due to transmission synchro problems and issues with vehicles that had the LSD. They found that by switching to the GL-4 there were less problems especially with higher HP applications.

 

has nothing to do with the LSD, the LSD is a sealed unit but your right about the syncros

Royal Purple Manual Transmission Fluid

Royal Purple Gear Oil

You were saying

 

Found this today after much research

Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 and Castrol Syntrans M are full synthetic
manual transmission lubricants with outstanding low temperature
fluidity, oxidation stability and synchroniser performance.
Product Application
Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 is recommended for manual transmissions
where excellent synchroniser performance is required or where severe
duty or extended drain intervals are experienced. Also recommended
for passenger car and light commercial vehicle transmissions,
transaxles and transfer cases where API GL 3 or 4 and SAE 75W/85 or
80 viscosity is specified.
Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 has proved to provide the best synchroniser
performance in Mitsubishi, Pajero, Galant VR4 and Lancer GSR manual
transmissions. Also effective in Holden Jackaroo and Rodeo manual
transmissions for best cold shift performance, as well as in competition
applications.
Castrol Syntrans M is our prime recommendation for long drain
applications in Eaton Road Ranger, Spicer and Rockwell truck
transmissions, in both normal and severe duty conditions. It is suitable
for both synchronised and non-synchronised manual transmissions. It
is particularly recommended for long haul interstate trucks, b-double,
road train and other severe duty applications. However it may also be
used in manual transmissions of cars and light commercial vehicles
where API GL4 and SAE 75W/90 or SAE 40 or 50 engine oils are
recommended.
Syntrans
75W/85
Syntrans M
B1312/99 replaces 1298/98Field Experience
Field experience with both Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 and Castrol
Syntrans M in Australia has demonstrated excellent performance in ZF,
Mercedes Benz, Volvo and Mitsubishi manual transmissions in a range
of vehicles, particularly trucks. Long haul operating conditions in
Australia differ from most overseas operations. There is a higher
proportion of engines above 400 hp (300 kw) operating on longer point
to point destinations, at higher speeds, as well as on rough roads.
These conditions increase the stress on the drive train and the
lubricant. Both Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 and Castrol Syntrans M have
demonstrated excellent gear set and bearing durability in field
evaluation in Australia.
Product Features & Benefits
Extensive field evaluation in Australia confirms excellent transmission
performance in synchronised transmissions.
Features
Ę Excellent oxidation stability.
Ę Proven synchroniser performance.
Ę Very fluid at low temperatures.
Ę Excellent viscosity temperature
characteristics.
Ę Good wear protection.
Ę Excellent seal compatibility with
normal mineral oil seals.
Ę Compatible with normal mineral oil.
Ę Long drain performance.
Ę Specially selected synthetic base
fluids and additive system.
Benefits
Ę Suitable for high temperature and
extended drain service.
Ę Makes gear shifting easier, and
transmission operation quieter. Helps
lower driver fatigue.
Ę Easier cold start gear shifting.
Ę Helps retain effective viscosity over all
ambient working temperature ranges.
Ę Low wear and long gear life.
Ę Standard seals can be retained and
long seal life expected.
Ę No special flushing procedure needed
when changing from mineral to
synthetic oil.
Ę Potentially lower maintenance costs
and greater vehicle availability.
Ę Very stable viscosity in service. Typical Characteristics
Performance Levels
Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 and Castrol Syntrans M are suitable where
the following performance levels are specified:
Performance
Ę API GL 3 or 4 MB 235.4
Ę API CC, CD, SE, SF, SG MAN 34 transmissions only
Ę ZF TE-ML 02, 01 (Manual Transmissions: car, light
commercial vehicles and heavy
commercial vehicles.) Approved for
extended drain 300,000 kms in
commercial vehicles with ZF
transmissions.
Ę Volvo Transmission Oil Part No. 97307
(Syntrans 75W/85 only).
Viscosity
Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 Castrol Syntrans M
Ę SAE 75W/85, 75W, 80W, SAE 75W/90, 80W/90, 75W/80,
75W/90
Ę SAE 5W-30, 10W-30, 30 SAE 15W-50, 20W-50, 15W-40,
20W-40, 40, 50
SAE Grade
Viscosity cSt @ 100
0
C
Viscosity cSt @ 40
0
C
Pour Point
0
C
API Rating
Viscosity Index
Viscosity cP @ -26
0
C
Syntrans 75W/85
11.9
64.4
<45
GL4
183
3,800
Syntrans M
18.5
120
<45
GL4
160
8,800Changeover Procedure
Drain and changeover from mineral oil to Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 or
Castrol Syntrans M.
As Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 and Castrol Syntrans M are compatible
with normal mineral gear oils, extensive flushing is not usually required.
For the optimum performance of Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 or Castrol
Syntrans M the following advice is offered. Where transaxle, transfer
case or transmission has been subjected to high operating
temperatures, the system should be flushed with clean gear oil, either
mineral (Castrol VMX80 or Castrol TFC 430) or preferably CASTROL
SYNTRANS 75W/85 or Castrol Syntrans M.
Flushing is best carried out by draining the used oil while still warm,
refilling with fresh clean gear oil and the unit worked for at least 1-2
hours. Then drain and refill with Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 or Castrol
Syntrans M, making sure transaxle, transfer case or transmission is
filled to the correct level.
Note: Although Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 or Castrol Syntrans M may be
topped up with mineral oil (Castrol VMX 80 or Castrol TFC 430 or 450
preferred), some of the performance advantages and protection
provided by Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 or Castrol Syntrans M will be
significantly reduced.
Extended Drain Applications
Determining service durability:
1. Recommended maximum service interval 400,000 kms or 2 years.
2. For extended drain service intervals, on-going wear metal analysis
is considered vital for maximum equipment durability. Castrol
Labcheck analysis at least every 100,000 kms should replace the
normal visual oil inspection at standard drain intervals.3. For off-highway or arduous operations, the drain interval should be
shortened from 400,000 kms to a length determined by Castrol
Labcheck sampling. To determine the drain interval, Labcheck
sampling should be undertaken at least every 100,000 kms. The
drain period should be calculated by the sample results and the
interpretation by the Castrol Technical Services Manager.
4. Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 and Castrol Syntrans M are NOT
compatible with glycol based gear oils. Compatibility with other
synthetic oils would need to be determined on a case by case
basis. Consult your local Castrol Office for advice.
5. Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 and Castrol Syntrans M are NOT
recommended for engines or hypoid differentials.
Health, Safety & Environment
Castrol Syntrans 75W/85 and Castrol Syntrans M are considered nonhazardous according to Worksafe. However, in line with safe handling
practices, it is recommended that the handling instructions outlined in
the Castrol Material Safety Data Sheet be followed.
Spillage
Small: Soak up using an inert mineral adsorbent
such as Castrol Diatomaceous Earth and
dispose of in the appropriate manner.
Large: Corrective action usually dictated by
individual company safety procedures.
Immediate containment and subsequent
removal is essential.
Disposal: Oily materials must not be allowed to enter
groundwater, watercourses, sewerage or
drainage systems. Refer to local Waste
Disposal Authority for legal requirements.Product Removal
Bare Metal Surfaces: Remove with Castrol solvent cleaners or
water based degreasers.
Hand Cleaning: Use any of the Castrol range of hand
cleaners, e.g. CareClean Plus.
Other Surfaces: Contact your local Special Products
Division in each State Offic

 

I would buy it off you if you could get it too me in the next few days, I would pay over night shipping..

 

I will see how much it would cost to ship it, I just have a feeling it may cost way too much.

 

went to NAPA, Carpro, and searched all over the net for the right fluid, It's a very popular fluid in Europe, but none of the places I searched could order it. Its a GM fluid specifically for our transmission and the Saab 9-3