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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Guess my 1/4 best time for Sunday...

Here's what's going on with the car:

Intense Stage 3
SPEC Stage 3+ Clutch
SPEC Flywheel
AEM Intake
GG Dual Torque Brace
Factory Dunlop 9000s
NX Wet 75 shot
NOS Dry 100 shot (I'll only use this on a run that I grab a good start with.)
Progress Springs
B&M Shifter
NGK Iridium plugs
200 lbs worth of stereo equipment.


What do you guys think? I'm bringing my helmet so I can run faster than a 12.99 legally, which I hope to do.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Hard to say with the nitrous.. I wish you the best of luck! Hit those 12s mah man!!!
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Thumbs up

try it without spray a couple of times also because i wanna know what we can do just off pulley upgrades! spray is not going in my car ide blow her up asap
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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hard to pick but w\e it is im sure its going to be FAST!
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Out of the box Intense Kit, a 75 wet hit AND a 100 dry hit and factory rubber? Umm, so basically you're turning the compressor to 14ish thousand RPM for roughly 260ish wheel horsepower, spraying a 75 fly and 100 fly for a net of roughly 120ish wheel horsepower of nitrous. Hmm, a 100 shot dry is this pre MAF or vacuum line referenced? It really doesn't matter, I guess. No methanol/water injection? Hmm so 260+120=380hp to the wheel, I'd say that setup is good for a low 12 high 11 sec pass at roughly 118-120ish mph. Theoretically! You're on stock rubber, WITH a tight ass SPEC 3 clutch. If you grab everything then you'll probably bounce it off the rev limiter, then it'll probably backfire through the intake/supercharger because you're flowing 175hp worth of nitrous through an intake setup to flow air alone and has an laminova intercooler that this nitrous/fuel must make it through without dropping out of atomization, then if you're lucky the factory PCM is smart/quick enough to save the engine from burning a piston/blowing head gasket/spinning a bearing/kicking a rod out/splitting/etc.

What is your plug gap? What size N20 jet on the dry? If it's pre MAF then I hope your nozzle is at least 4 inches from your MAF. That's a lot of N2O for the MAF to see and compensate the fuel/spark curve in time, any closer than 4 inches is pushing with such a large dry hit. You run the risk of freezing the sensor AND more importantly running out of table because you're already on the stage 3 kit.

If you're not yanking our chains you're in for a big big surprise if you grab everything. And not a happy one. I like your initiative though. Who knows it might live through 3 or 4 hits if you get it to hook. Street rubber doesn't hook, especially not with a SPEC 3 upstream. Baby steps please. You'll have more fun.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Dude, I've already ran like 10 bottles thorugh this car. Trust me, it handles.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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Dude, I've already ran like 10 bottles thorugh this car. Trust me, it handles.
On 175 hit?! With the Intense Stage 3?! What setting on the MAFT? What's your N2O jet size on both kits? Not calling you a liar, just want to know so we can turn up the wick. 175 is 88% of the stock output for an LSJ. That's alot of juice.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Dude, I've already ran like 10 bottles thorugh this car. Trust me, it handles.
The clutch didn't handle.

I guess 12.40@109mpg

What track you going to?
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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Mason Dixon in MD. If I hit a 12.4 I will literally **** my pants right then and there. Lol. I hope the Dunlops will hold up.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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If I didn't work sunday I would meet you there. How about saturday instead

I think 12.4 would be hard on the stock tires and with nothing to cut down wheel hop. But you got a lot of power..
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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I have to work all day Saturday or I would. I have a VERY stiff upper torque mount brace to combat wheelhop, don't worry.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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I have to work all day Saturday or I would. I have a VERY stiff upper torque mount brace to combat wheelhop, don't worry.
Take 2:
On 175 hit?! With the Intense Stage 3?! What setting on the MAFT? What's your N2O jet size on both kits? Not calling you a liar, just want to know so we can turn up the wick. 175 is 88% of the stock output for an LSJ. That's alot of juice.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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if you are running stock tires i doubt you run better than 13.3
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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yeah you need tires or else your going to be in the 13s . wheres the exaust man? your car needs to breathe!
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Hmm...I think you should leave the helmet at home.

Jokes aside I'm gonna say 13 flat on stock tires, maybe a tad bit higher.

But leave the helmet at home anyway. There is nothing more fun then getting get off the track for not having one. It really strokes your ego.

I have friends that have gone to watch the races and ended up racing a few times. Now they know them there and they arent allowed to race unless they have a helmet to start with.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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Take 2:
On 175 hit?! With the Intense Stage 3?! What setting on the MAFT? What's your N2O jet size on both kits? Not calling you a liar, just want to know so we can turn up the wick. 175 is 88% of the stock output for an LSJ. That's alot of juice.
MAF-T is at D2. NX jets on wet kit is 18/45. NOS jet on dry kit is 102. On the wet shot she runs right around 11:1. On the dry shot she picks up to around 12.5:1.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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My guess is 18sec@60mph on the first pass, when the motor goes boom and you coast to the finish line. J/k(sort of) I say best of 13.3 depending on track conditions.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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I guess these are low ball times. I see Balts with a smaller pulley and such running mid 13s. Let's not forget I have the ability to double the stock power once the tires stop spinning.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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I guess these are low ball times. I see Balts with a smaller pulley and such running mid 13s. Let's not forget I have the ability to double the stock power once the tires stop spinning.
The Cobalts that you have seen running mid 13s had DRs. That is the difference. If you put slicks on your car I would agree with Darksun and say high 11s, but you don't have slicks. You have stock STREET tires that can't hook with the stock power let alone almost double it. Be careful when you stop spinning and engage your nitrous that you don't start spinning again.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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good luck though
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mycavisux97
good luck though
Ditto
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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The Cobalts that you have seen running mid 13s had DRs. That is the difference. If you put slicks on your car I would agree with Darksun and say high 11s, but you don't have slicks. You have stock STREET tires that can't hook with the stock power let alone almost double it. Be careful when you stop spinning and engage your nitrous that you don't start spinning again.
I do have slicks. I just don't think I am going to run them. I might if I'm not satisfied with my take off.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 01:42 AM
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MAF-T is at D2. NX jets on wet kit is 18/45. NOS jet on dry kit is 102. On the wet shot she runs right around 11:1. On the dry shot she picks up to around 12.5:1.
Are you sure?! I assume on the wet 18 is the fuel and 45 is the nitrous. An .018 is pretty lean for that shot of juice. Also a .045 is about 100 to the crank or 75ish at the wheel. You're running stock fuel pressure correct? As far as a .102 in the dry shot, you're mistaken, look again because a .102 n2o jet is pushing 500hp crank. Something's not right here, you go from on the rich side to on the lean side(for n2o) and isn't D2 the basic out of the box setting?I don't remember what it was, somaybe it wasn't.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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My bottle nipple can't flow more than a 100 shot because it's not a pure-flow. It's just a regular -4AN. That's how I know it's a 100 shot. Yes I have the wet running a bit "lean" but on my a/f I stay pretty damn rich. Trust me dude, the car runs FLAWLESS on the many bottles it has been fed. And out of the box the MAF-T is C1 which is leaner than I have mine set. FYI NOS jets and NX jets are rated different. And yes I'm running at the stock 69 psi for fuel. It only drops like 10psi at most when I kick in the wet shot which is made up for because that is injecting the extra fuel. But within miliseconds it's back to 69.

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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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My bottle nipple can't flow more than a 100 shot because it's not a pure-flow. It's just a regular -4AN. That's how I know it's a 100 shot. Yes I have the wet running a bit "lean" but on my a/f I stay pretty damn rich. Trust me dude, the car runs FLAWLESS on the many bottles it has been fed. And out of the box the MAF-T is C1 which is leaner than I have mine set. FYI NOS jets and NX jets are rated different. And yes I'm running at the stock 69 psi for fuel. It only drops like 10psi at most when I kick in the wet shot which is made up for because that is injecting the extra fuel. But within miliseconds it's back to 69.
I'd have to call you again on the bottle nut. 4AN line will support a 250 hit at the crank with your standard size solenoid. Unless yo're running some medical grade or paint gun nitrous bottle then the bottle nut is never a restriction on anything below 300hp of nitrous. A bottle nut only being able to support 100hp crank didn't come with a NOS kit. For your FYI all the major and minor companies use the measurement of the orifice in the jet to determine the size. A 102 N.O.S jet is the same as a NX, Cold Fusion, Dynotune, Compucar, Speedtech, etc. 102 jet. I just don't buy the fact that you're spraying 175hp worth of juice into a stock bottom end 4 cylinder with hypereutectic pistons. That's a lot of cylinder pressure for 4 stock slugs to handle. And if you are doing it then you're not seeing the full effect of the juice because you're running a really fat tune, but your wet hit is WAY on the lean side. I see to many inconsistencies in your said setup. A 018 jet is not going to cause a reduction of 10psi in fuel pressure. How do you know the pressure is dropping? I take it you have a gauge on the car or did you use a troubleshooting gauge while on the dyno? Who tuned the car? Tuning the nozzle that far down means that the base N/A tune is way too fat, and I've never tuned a nozzle passed .003 up or down from company's baseline jetting. What's your a/f at WOT off the juice? An 18 jet is for a nitrous supply almost half of what you're running. I don't get it. Doesn't make sense.
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