Ok man you are absolutley right....Car makers want to give ragged out slow cars to test so that they can kill car sales... OMG I forget that business 101 how stupid of me...


I mean lose sales to competition... How brilliant! You retard!!



Her name is Mel by the way... and as for your friend who is the CIA director well I think you misunderstood him when he said who was stupid since he was talking about you.... look in the mirror idiot!!!!!!!

 

i pulled one easy in the wrong gear with my mods. Try racing the single cab srt10 ram i gurantee you it will be a different story

 

It means that the driver sucks, and the fact that this guy only got the numbers he did, along with the trap he did, suggests that a crappy driver can ruin any car in a race.

 

he must of been playin with ya

 

I get SO sick of people thinking everyone's BS'ing. It's not impossible--these trucks are NOT as fast as you think. A guy at work has one and I think it's pretty comparable to a highly-modified SS/SC or a stock SRT-8. Definitely not as fast as I had imagined it would be. Bench/stat-race all you want, there are a lot of factors into the equation. Drivers, altitude, temperature, tire temperature, wind, weight (and believe me, with the exception of the Neon--everything in Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge's lineup is pretty heavy), etc.

 

Ok here you go..... Some striking examples that jump out at me.. and cars I have personally owned!


2004 Saab 9-3 Aero 6.9 15.1 --- Most owners see 15.4
1995 Saab 900 Turbo Coupe 6.8 15.2 --- Most Owners see 15.4-15.6
1994 Saab 9000 Aero 5 spd 6.2 14.8 --- Most Owners see 15.3-15.6



See I can play that game too...... But I am done with you my friend.... you are not worth my time.

 

You were quoting magazine figures vs. what owners have pulled in their own cars in previous posts and I was doing the same.. Unless your too stupid to remember what you wrote??? Which it appears that way.



The site you quoted as teh link to 1/4 mile times had those times listed for the saab's I sited and they are wrong!!!!


So bend over and grab cheeks on your butt and re-insert head!!!

 

Its called pointing out that your information is flawed you idiot!!!!



What are you 12 years old???? Quite being an internet tough guy and e-thugging.



I am seriously done with you and this thread.

 

Hey you guys, chill out. Both of you should realize that sites like dragtimes.com are not always the best for judging what "normal people" get at the track. What's to stop them from fudging the info to claim they are stock? Personally I've never trusted what people post, because I've met plenty of people who would love to CLAIM that their car was stock when they achieved a time to pump up their ego, and everyone to think they are awesome drivers, when in actuality, they just lied about their mods. I've even heard people skeptical about Tofu's stock track times, but personally he doesn't seem like that type of guy, but you never know.

Also, track conditions can vary quite a lot. I can understand both of your arguments, and I think that you are both right. I think sometimes, if the car's performance is important enough to the image of the company (Z06), they will make damn sure it is the best possible vehicle they can make. And if it's just a regular vehicle that will sell no matter what (Cobalt) they probably do test the model that has been beat to ****. You both should just admit that eachother has a valid argument, and in the end, who really cares. I'm done playing Dad.

 

I don't think they "UBER TUNE" them, but I guarantee you that that car will have absolutely no flaws whatsoever compared to the typical production version. Also, in this scenario of the two listed in my earlier post, the professional drivers are probably better than 95% of any typical person and are really trying to get the best time possible.

 

Lets clarify what uber tune is..... Perfect gap on plugs, ignition modules running perfect, tested gas that is at or above premium octane, etc... I am not talking they take it to the dyno and tweak the hell out of it. I am mearly saying that like you said they bring the best specimen they can possibly bring to the rodeo.

 

have you heard about somethign called elevation... last time i checked every track isnt at sea level. therefore there will be a wide range of cars running a wide range of times... now please stop acting like 4 year olds...

 

Can you elaborate on what you mean by this post? I don't guite udnerstand what you're gteting at.

 

Are you talking LACR or Pomona????


one more time UBER TUNED= Best Specimen that is running better then most production models of the same car.


Now thank you and move dude! Its apparent that most everyone thinks your a tool on here.

 

Snapple... hummmmmm... writing style seems familiar though he just got to this site a day ago. Oh damn! He's back again! Someone get a mod and some troll spray!

 

Ok yeah this says fitment issues and ragged out car right here.....This is based off your search criteria.

Article link

Can you show me some of these "Fitment articles" your talking about???


I have seen them use a variety of venues... from lacr, Pomona, Irwindale's and Qualcomm's 1/8 mile for different testing events. Not to mention Buttonwillow for handling and road course testing.

 

I assume yuor talking about this statement???




Cobalt SS Supercharged models also get four-wheel disc brakes with ABS, an interior with standard leather upholstery and phony metal trim instead of phony wood, a mild body kit, an oversize rear wing and cool-looking 18-inch wheels wrapped in P215/45R18 Pirelli PZero tires. The only significant option is a performance package bundling an effective limited-slip differential with truly great Recaro front seats. Don't buy a Chevy Cobalt SS without them

If so thats almost the same thing they said on the SRT-4 too. If you wanted a car with a better interior you would have ponied up and bought an Audi, SAAB, BMW etc.... You bought a Cobalt or Neon because it was ***** fast and could hang with an SRT-10 truck on the road!!!! Not for cushy leather trimmed seats and cup holders.

 

I think you misread the bold part of my post Snapple. I seriously doubt GM cares as much about the performance of the Cobalt SS as say the Z06. If the SS was slower than the Civic Si, it would not hurt the overall sales of the Cobalt model. Cobalt's will sell no matter what, I doubt SS models even make up 20% of total Cobalt sales. The Corvette on the otherhand, only comes in a performance trim, that is its sole purpose. It is the flagship performance vehicle for General Motors. The vehicle they send to be tested are going to be in better condition than any car a typical consumer will buy. I never said that was true about the Cobalt SS, and am pretty much certain that it's not.

And by the way, how does body panel fitment issues affect the performance of a vehicle?
Also, if you're getting your car info. from Edmunds, then no wonder you have the opinions you do. They always have horrible reviews and will favor imports 99% of the time.

 

You know it slows it down in the 1/4 mile and rolling road since a bad fit cup holder can take away 30HP since that means the car is beat to crap.....

 

UBER TUNE FTMFW!

This thread amuses me.

 

Making fun of the developmentaly challanged isn't cool. Retarded people can not help being born that way.

Bad form Snapple, bad form indeed.

 

And that is UBER TUNED UP.

 

theres absolutely no reason why a big truck like that, capable of sub 2.0 60fters, couldnt be beaten from a roll by an ss/sc
they run 13.8 with smokin launches, cobalts run 14.2, with fwd bunny hoppin.

take that launch away from them, and this result is very believable.

 

exactly... people just think srt=God

 

Not me! I look past the SRT and see the Dodge pile of crap underneath.