trap speed is 99.3
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From: newark, DE
Originally Posted by hatrickstu
Your right man, i was thinking of the tires i just sold, haha, but still 20psi is still way to little for a 32psi tire. but you are wrong man that is the optimal psi for traction as well, based on your theory you might as well just run 1psi in the damn tires
lowering the pressure is good for off line traction AKA wheel hop
but when going 100+ the car will feel unstable
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From: Surprise,AZ
Originally Posted by BullDog71ss
You make more smart ass comments than almost everyone around here, so I don't know what your problem is...
A far as getting traction, poly control arm bushings along with a poly motor mount will do more than any set of rims and tires. our biggest traction problem is wheel hop. Wheel slip can be controlled much easier and you can still move foward while peeling out. If you are wheel hopping you might as well be driving backwards. A new set of tires and rims might help the wheel hop a little bit, but the poly mounts will all but kill it. THEN you can think of getting a new set of rims and tires, but I'd wait untill you get the Intense kit or some other serious power package. Hell, look at tofu. That fool ran a 13.8 with a 2.0 60ft on the stock tires and stock rims. Why...because he changed some of his mounts to poly. Also, if you did manage to cut something like a 2.0-2.2 60ft with that 100 mph trap, that woulda been damn close to a 13.0 sec run.
Oh yeah, please, for god man, sake put a muffler on your car before the Payson run. Either that our you're riding in the back of the pack, that thing is intollerable.
A far as getting traction, poly control arm bushings along with a poly motor mount will do more than any set of rims and tires. our biggest traction problem is wheel hop. Wheel slip can be controlled much easier and you can still move foward while peeling out. If you are wheel hopping you might as well be driving backwards. A new set of tires and rims might help the wheel hop a little bit, but the poly mounts will all but kill it. THEN you can think of getting a new set of rims and tires, but I'd wait untill you get the Intense kit or some other serious power package. Hell, look at tofu. That fool ran a 13.8 with a 2.0 60ft on the stock tires and stock rims. Why...because he changed some of his mounts to poly. Also, if you did manage to cut something like a 2.0-2.2 60ft with that 100 mph trap, that woulda been damn close to a 13.0 sec run.
Oh yeah, please, for god man, sake put a muffler on your car before the Payson run. Either that our you're riding in the back of the pack, that thing is intollerable.
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From: Horseheads, NY
Originally Posted by Darksun280
Gotta slip for that one buddy I'll call your bluff. Trap is way to low for that 14.2 your claiming in a cobalt. What was your 1/8 mile times? Seems like you got slower as the race went on but you still pulled a 14.2. usally the cobalt starts to shine later in 1/4 mile than in the beginning. But than again Everyone from texas seem to do amazing things on this forum.
I lost my slip but I posted the break down on RL forums when I ran it. I went 14.4099 at 96.19 iirc with a 2.3x 60. 14.2 is entirely reasonable given his trap speed...If I had got like a 2.1 60' I would have been there hell I was only .01 seconds away from a 14.3 bone stock...even down to the tire pressures.
Also lowering tire pressure doesnt really make sense...you are making the tire go into an underinflated situation with the sidewalls being overloaded and the middle being underloaded. Run your recommend tire pressure...it is all in your head.
Dan
Originally Posted by djt81185
His run is entirely possible.
I lost my slip but I posted the break down on RL forums when I ran it. I went 14.4099 at 96.19 iirc with a 2.3x 60. 14.2 is entirely reasonable given his trap speed...If I had got like a 2.1 60' I would have been there hell I was only .01 seconds away from a 14.3 bone stock...even down to the tire pressures.
Also lowering tire pressure doesnt really make sense...you are making the tire go into an underinflated situation with the sidewalls being overloaded and the middle being underloaded. Run your recommend tire pressure...it is all in your head.
Dan
I lost my slip but I posted the break down on RL forums when I ran it. I went 14.4099 at 96.19 iirc with a 2.3x 60. 14.2 is entirely reasonable given his trap speed...If I had got like a 2.1 60' I would have been there hell I was only .01 seconds away from a 14.3 bone stock...even down to the tire pressures.
Also lowering tire pressure doesnt really make sense...you are making the tire go into an underinflated situation with the sidewalls being overloaded and the middle being underloaded. Run your recommend tire pressure...it is all in your head.
Dan
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I had an 01 WS6 from 00 to 03 and ran 20-24 psi every time I went to the track and cut 1.8-1.9 60 FT times with the car from the time it was stock til I put nitrous on it. The stock f1's the BFG dr's and the nitto dr's all gave me the same 60 ft times. Stock I was trapping 107 and with the nitrous I was trapping 119 and the car was completely stable in a straight line, you just had to use some common sense cornering and reinflate the tires after you were done. For the front wheels I had them set at 40 psi to decrease rolling resistance. The only difference in my car and the guys who were cutting 60 ft times over 2.0 was the tire pressure. Do not run the car on the highway like this. I also found that my best runs were when I was very slightly spinning the tires out of the hole.
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From: Mesa, Az
Originally Posted by hatrickstu
are you talking about my muffler? i really hope you arent considering you have never heard it. and what kind of math are you doing to get a 13.0 quarter mile trapping 100MPH with a 2.0-2.2 60 foot time
I ment breaking into the 13's(ie, 13.97), not actually hitting a 13 flat. My mistake for not making that more clear. I was also talking about victoryred's car. He's running his ss/sc without a muffler and it sounds aweful.
Originally Posted by victoryredss
fine went and got a muffler put on
Damn straight, that thing was making a nasty racket, man. If you didn't get one by the time we went to payson you were going to have to ride in the back of the pack for everyone's else sake.
But you're cool now, heh.
Originally Posted by BullDog71ss
I ment breaking into the 13's(ie, 13.97), not actually hitting a 13 flat. My mistake for not making that more clear. I was also talking about victoryred's car. He's running his ss/sc without a muffler and it sounds aweful.
Damn straight, that thing was making a nasty racket, man. If you didn't get one by the time we went to payson you were going to have to ride in the back of the pack for everyone's else sake. But you're cool now, heh.
Damn straight, that thing was making a nasty racket, man. If you didn't get one by the time we went to payson you were going to have to ride in the back of the pack for everyone's else sake.
But you're cool now, heh.
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From: Niceville, Florida
Originally Posted by Darksun280
Gotta slip for that one buddy I'll call your bluff. Trap is way to low for that 14.2 your claiming in a cobalt. What was your 1/8 mile times? Seems like you got slower as the race went on but you still pulled a 14.2. usally the cobalt starts to shine later in 1/4 mile than in the beginning. But than again Everyone from texas seem to do amazing things on this forum.
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