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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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clutch bleeding wtf??

ok so i guess i have air in my lines cause my clutch is completely soft, it wont go into gear or anything.
i loosened the valve thats on top of the tranny to bleed it but when i pump the clutch a lil bit of air comes out everytime, no fluid at all, do i keep pumping till fluid comes out? ive pumped about 10,000 times already.

please help its urgent

bumpp anyone?

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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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ok so i guess i have air in my lines cause my clutch is completely soft, it wont go into gear or anything.
i loosened the valve thats on top of the tranny to bleed it but when i pump the clutch a lil bit of air comes out everytime, no fluid at all, do i keep pumping till fluid comes out? ive pumped about 10,000 times already.

please help its urgent

bumpp anyone?
I know I shouldn't even ask this but are you keeping the resevoir full? Do you understand hydraulic bleeding principles at all?
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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yea the reservoir is full, no luquid comes out of the clutch slave at all
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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And you're getting ZERO fluid at the clutch bleeder after pumpimg once or twice?
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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yeazero, lil bit of air, but i pumped it so many dam times and its jus lil bit of air, and once in a while its like a drop of fluid on my finger
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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I just noticed you're in an SC. I have zero experience with your brake system in particular. Does your car use a common resevoir?
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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yes sir
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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Are your brakes working OK?
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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well idk lol i cant move the car since my clutch has no pressure at all, i jus finished swapping my engine.
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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Try bleeding the right rear brake. You need to know if fluid is getting out of the resevoir before you can do anything.

Do you have any brake pedal at all?

Bleeding a dry system is a pretty long term procedure. Keep the resevoir topped off. Have your brake guy/gal PUSH, NOT STAB, the clutch pedal 2 or 3 times and hold it down. Barely open the bleeder and close immediately. PUSH the pedal 2 or 3 times and hold. Barely open the bleeder and close immediately. Top off resevoir and put the lid on. PUSH, open, close, push, open, close, top off Get the idea? It took me the better part of a wghole day to bleed the clutch on my Fiero when I installed all new lines, master and slave. So long as you have some brake pedal you should be able to bleed the clutch. Persistence. If you hang with a bunch of guys that work on each others cars become a group hero and buy a pressure bleeder. They'll all share their girls with you 1st time you let them use it. $60 will get you a good system that will last forever. I can completely change the fluid in my car in under 30 minutes. BY MYSELF! And don't forget to bleed the whole brake system before your test ride. Might be a great time to treat the whole hydraulics to a fresh load of DOT 4 fluid.

Good luck!

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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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Man just to the closes NAPA store and get a vacuum bleeder pump open the valve up and pump it up until you see no more air bubbles just make sure you reservoir stays full took me 15 mins to bleed mine works great
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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I'll sell you my vacuum bleeder for cheap after using a pressure bleeder. Like I said it took me the better part of a whole day to bleed the clutch on my Fiero. Took me less than an hour (first time with the pressure bleeder) to CHANGE the fluid in my cobalt. Brake and clutch. Fill the tank, pump it up once and just go around the vehicle till your done. It's a beautiful thing.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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i bought the vacuum bleeder today and tried to use it, no luck.
when i bleed does the car need to be on? does it matter if the battery isnt connected or something?

i put the vacuum bleeder line in the bleeder and started pumpin but nothing happened, couple air bubbles now and then thats it.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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car does not need to be on just put you hose on I used a small zip tie to make sure the hose was tight opened the bleeder and pumped until I have clear fluid with no bubbles. I wish I could tell you more
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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If you're getting a couple of bubbles SOMETHING's getting through. Fluid can't be TOO far behind. Depending on your technique it might take a 1/2 hour of puimp and bleed cycles just to start seeing fluid. THEN you have to continue till the fluid is clear and clean. Another 1/2 hour or more. The frustration factor for somebody doing this job the first time is enormous.

BUY THE

Pressure bleeder. Put bleeder cap on resevoir. Fill the bleeder tank with brake fluid. Pump up 10-12 lbs pressure in the bleeder tank. Open each bleeder and just leave it open till fluid runs clear and clean. Close bleeder and go on to the next bleeder. Repeat. Like I said. Now would be the perfect time to change all the fluid in the car. Clutch AND brakes. Give the car a treat.

I keep saying pressure bleeder because I wanted to change the fluid in my SS. I wanted to put DOT4 in it. I don't have a lot of people around to help me and after the vacuum pump fiasco on the Fiero (nightmares) I decided to take some advice from people I know, in the business, and buy one. I bought mine at Amazon for $60. Make sure you ask for the correct resevoir adapter.

http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...ction=category

You might not want to spend $60-70 but the alternative might be to tow the car to the shop. The bleeder will be yours forever, unless your buddy gets his hands on it. Bleeding brake/clutch systems is a time consuming, tedious, job that requires two patient people working together to do the job. UNLESS you use a pressure bleeder. One man. NO PUMPING. Open the bleeder once. Close the bleeder once. Done.

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Good luck
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 04:17 PM
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Check ur master cylinder mine did the same thing after a motor swap and it was the master cylinder and it worked before the swap so idle wat happened
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