From my understanding even the stage 2 zzp trans which i have already broken is only good for around 400ish. But according to zzp it broke because no oil was in the trans. BYT says he put oil in so not sure what to say there. The trans itself is just not ment to hold serious power and you risk breaking it at anything over the 400 mark.

I have decided to do a 6speed conversion from zzp instead and should have the car back shortly. So yeah no sure what to say about the news i got from zzp today on the trans.

 

oh hell no.
if anything f23 swap, can do the whole thing for @800 and if a trans blows, well $250 for another one is def the best option I can think of for now.
and I'm building a 88mm turbo lm7 trans am, could care less what I can do with the balt anymore. I put enough of my time and money into doing some crazy **** with the cars for what? people to still be slow as hell. People are willing to put tons of money into these cars to make em slammed to the ground, drive like ****, and look like *******, but no one will pony up any money for anything to really be made to advance the performance. Honestly, I'm done wasting my time trying to do anything to advance these cars. Hell 99% on here still aren't anywhere near the power I was making back in 06, even with the tvs crap they run now ( I made 296whp on my m62 most can't even break that on the tvs).

 

I was checking out some info from GM and the new buick turbo sport Sedan has an all new GM built 6 speed (not Saab) so Ill be looking in all the junk yards for one all winter

 

Yea but I just found a f23 with 18,000 miles on it for $250! If it holds the power and has a better 1st gear how could ya go wrong.

 

more info plz mongorat

 

Info on that too please Mongo. PM if necessary

 

One of the new 6 speeds is built by Tremac for buick Verano and Caddy Im not sure about

 

I need something that can handle over 500whp

 

Honestly unless your willing to spend a ton of cash thats not going to happen.

I think my new 6 speed was around 4.3k and i am not even sure that will hold my 500.

Time will tell.

 

What is zzp using in their lnf that ran a 10 something 1/4 mile?

 

Currently im at 424whp done multiple 60-120 wot pulls on the stocker but im installing ported head and cams

 

depends on how you hook up. I was running 450-550whp (depending on motor that was in the car at the time) trans never blew, but I never could get full traction on the street anyway. INfe's car blew up 2 f35s in 3rd gear one on street tires and the other on mickeys. Mezz also blew his f35 on 28psi somewhere in the mid 400 range whp/wtq and blew his on a 3rd gear roll also. I guess it's the luck of the draw and how and when the trans loads up. but I"m not trusting them anymore, time to try something else I guess.

 

yep i agree and its why i am trying the 6 speed option i am being offered. I am also there for a 2.1 bottom end and wll finally get some numbers on the EFR when ZZP gets done with it here shortly.

 

Couldn't you just order one from GM? Is it good enough for our application? j/w

 

How much is that transmission? Its a modified G6 6 speed which is a Saab F40. I can get a new one cheap.

Dont know yet but at least it should bolt to the 2.0 without an adapter of some kind

 

F40 doesnt fit a cobalt without a ton of work. color that not really feasible. I tried this years ago, when zzp sold one to a customer .....it did not install and the list to try to make it work was long. kinda as much as a pita as installing an f23 in an f 35 car.

 

Thats what I was wondering since it was used on a V6. The trans thats in the 2012 Buick 2.0 turbo would be a better choice but then theres still axle fit etc etc to worry about. Hey John I need the 3 bolts that hold the Throwout bearing in place with that trans. My BadGot another set of 4.45s for you

 

This is completely off topic but if you dont mind asking, Mongorat427. But i notice that in your profile you are from a PA and Pfc? are you in the PA guard? Army guard? If so are you going to Kuwait 2013? If its not to much to ask, jw

 

okay i will put some bolts in there for you. cheers

 

Ha Ha I was in the Navy from 1966 to 1976 E5 5 years active and 5 years reserve. Thats my I trader Icon I guess

 

Believe its going to be around 4.3k still waiting on my final bill etc.

 

I'll say it again I'm sure most people who have the cash to mod to 400+whp can afford this trans. But putting up that money in advance with zero guarantee and or unknown results is tough to do. I could easily afford this but I wouldn't spend my money on something without proven results. The only thing proven about this set up is Sheps name. Turns out its not proven on our platform so take that how you like. I hope it works out sure but will it who knows?

 

So how many ppl are in this now? I've got the funds... and will most likely need a tranny solution before I break it.. ordering a ZFR most likely tomorrow if my damn phone doesn't take a **** again! :!

 

do you think anyone in their right mind would spend the money to r&d something out of their market, I'm sure he has enough business with all his dsm stuff to carry him over for a lifetime, cobalt's, well I know I wouldn't spend another dime to make something for this car without others chipping in for r&d.

 

we have six so far