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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 11:23 AM
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do you think anyone in their right mind would spend the money to r&d something out of their market, I'm sure he has enough business with all his dsm stuff to carry him over for a lifetime, cobalt's, well I know I wouldn't spend another dime to make something for this car without others chipping in for r&d.

Risk for reward. Happens all the time. Like I said I hope it works out. He's the one who stands to make the money off this. He knows there IS interest. But he has no proven results on this platform. Im sure many more would purchase if he had something to prove it was worth the money. I myself am not opposed to advancing the platform and would even likely buy one when or if I got big turbo but I defiantly wouldn't spend the money without results. I'm sure more than a few people feel the same. That's why after this long we have only 6 people. I don't remember a ZZP thread asking for money up front for ZFR housings. They knew there was a market for a bolt on upgrade and went for it...same with BNR and Hahn. I hope it works out I really do I just think the reality is proven results make sales. I'd hate for you guys to drop this money and it doesn't even live up to expectations. But it's not my money in the end so how you spend it isn't my business.
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyBalt09
Risk for reward. Happens all the time. Like I said I hope it works out. He's the one who stands to make the money off this. He knows there IS interest. But he has no proven results on this platform. Im sure many more would purchase if he had something to prove it was worth the money. I myself am not opposed to advancing the platform and would even likely buy one when or if I got big turbo but I defiantly wouldn't spend the money without results. I'm sure more than a few people feel the same. That's why after this long we have only 6 people. I don't remember a ZZP thread asking for money up front for ZFR housings. They knew there was a market for a bolt on upgrade and went for it...same with BNR and Hahn. I hope it works out I really do I just think the reality is proven results make sales. I'd hate for you guys to drop this money and it doesn't even live up to expectations. But it's not my money in the end so how you spend it isn't my business.
I agree completely with this. Everyone know's Shep is reputable, but a lot of us have been burned bad by promises and **** falling through I wouldn't want to dump 1500 of my hard earned cash and have a trans that's no better than my stock one.
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 01:12 PM
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^ this
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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I hear u on this I would like to see numbers as well
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 01:55 AM
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I agree completely with this. Everyone know's Shep is reputable, but a lot of us have been burned bad by promises and **** falling through I wouldn't want to dump 1500 of my hard earned cash and have a trans that's no better than my stock one.
Are you being serious? Please tell me that was a joke.

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^ this
This too?
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 04:08 PM
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Are you being serious? Please tell me that was a joke.



This too?
no joke. paying upfront and waiting, there is a history here of group buys gone long and wrong.

hard to make an f35 better. 4.45 makes it better, but not because of magik builds.
reinforcing the bellhousing is trick, but when the shafts come through,the extra gussets just slow down the intrusion...

even non lsd trans fail bad.

imagine. one wheel spinning repeatedly fails the star gears?

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good luck with this project. cr gears help, they been made /not seeing a stampede to buy at 2k each ratio set.

no joke.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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what can we do about reienforcing the bell housing? any ideas powell???
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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isnt the HHR ss/tc trans casing stronger than the 05-07 SS/SC trans?
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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what can we do about reienforcing the bell housing? any ideas powell???
I have done it. little gussets welded between the ribs. Not really worth it at all... the LNF case appears to have some little changes to it, but its not anything significant if at all...zero difference internally.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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Well I need to figure out something to beef up my trans im in the process of installing my cams, ported head, im, an tb
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 09:02 PM
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Based on what I have seen, with cams you will probably move the power band up, and have less low end torque so that will help your transmission I expect.
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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I cant wait to try my cryoed 4.45 trans. When can I pick it up John


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This should get some interest John
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 03:44 PM
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no joke. paying upfront and waiting, there is a history here of group buys gone long and wrong.

hard to make an f35 better. 4.45 makes it better, but not because of magik builds.
reinforcing the bellhousing is trick, but when the shafts come through,the extra gussets just slow down the intrusion...

even non lsd trans fail bad.

imagine. one wheel spinning repeatedly fails the star gears?




whodathunkit?

good luck with this project. cr gears help, they been made /not seeing a stampede to buy at 2k each ratio set.

no joke.
I don't understand why you would say reinforcing the bell housing is the trick, but then say it's not even worth it. And again I am baffled at how everyone thinks they know better than Shep himself. As soon as he got my trans apart he told me what the problem was just by looking at it. I also don't understand most of what you said, your wording is confusing sometimes.

All the evo guys blamed their 4th gear problems on the cases a while back and John proved that wrong as well. This thread is pointless anymore it just frustrates me more than anything. Which is why I'm trying one more thing before I either sell the car or detune it and dd it again.
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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He said "trick" not "the trick". Meaning it helps (a little) but not going to solve the problem.
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 09whteSSpssssh
I have a spare trans with a stripped 3rd gear, pm me if he wants a couple to toy with i dont mind giving mine up to the cause. Been though three already.
How does one go through so many transmissions in 3 yrs?!?!... instead of just clutches? Lmfao. F35 trans must be cheap!!
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by terry11
I don't understand why you would say reinforcing the bell housing is the trick, but then say it's not even worth it. And again I am baffled at how everyone thinks they know better than Shep himself. As soon as he got my trans apart he told me what the problem was just by looking at it. I also don't understand most of what you said, your wording is confusing sometimes.

All the evo guys blamed their 4th gear problems on the cases a while back and John proved that wrong as well. This thread is pointless anymore it just frustrates me more than anything. Which is why I'm trying one more thing before I either sell the car or detune it and dd it again.

Have u talked with shep to see if he'll do it for the guys on the list now? Who makes the gears for shepard
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FF_ace
Have u talked with shep to see if he'll do it for the guys on the list now? Who makes the gears for shepard
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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Have u talked with shep to see if he'll do it for the guys on the list now? Who makes the gears for shepard
Yeah it's not going to happen. It wasn't even supposed to be 10 but he talked his gear company into it.
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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I cant wait to try my cryoed 4.45 trans. When can I pick it up John


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wednesday this week its my intention to go to NY on a parts trip. so then. its ready.
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 11:12 PM
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Have u talked with shep to see if he'll do it for the guys on the list now? Who makes the gears for shepard
close ratio gears 3/4/5/ exist. it cost 18,000 for Emco to tool. they run about 2 k per set. sign up if you want, contact me. I wont hold my breath. Heck I wouldnt put them in my car at that price. My transmission holds up just fine. But then I dont make big torque numbers, that must be it.
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 11:39 PM
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well this looks like its never going to happen so i need to start looking for other solutions
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 12:16 AM
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Alright, I'm a bit confused, so I'm just going to throw out what's on my mind here:

-How many ZZP 4.45s have failed so far, and what failed on them? What setup were they running?
-Is Powell doing/offering any solutions for the stock F35s or additions/alternatives to the 4.45s?

If the ones that failed were at power levels beyond my goal, then I/others could possibly still consider ourselves covered by the added security that the 4.45 offers. If common failure modes become apparent, then that would be notable, and possibly avoidable (i.e. side stepping a 6262 with slicks).
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 12:50 AM
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Sounds like there's no options for beefing up our trannies.. are there any other solutions out there yet? Is Mongorat's **** going to stand up to 500whp? I just wonder since I'm going big too.. I have no tranny solution yet, but intend to have something (if there is anything) by next spring. If you needed just one more to get Shep to make these gears, then count me in.. providing that they'll actually work! We all Need SOMEthing to keep us from breaking with the higher #'s....
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 12:55 AM
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We need four more people... Im going big as we speak been running my 5857 for a while now finally installing my cams and ported top end
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 06:22 AM
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Count me in 100%
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