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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Short Shifter Question

I dont like how fifth is on my Hurst shifter. The gears look something like:

1 3 5
2 4 __ R

Is there any way to make them:

1 3 5
2 4 R

I want it like stock so that when you push it to the right from neutral, you can push it all the way to the right and up to get into 5th or reverse. Are all short shifters like the Hurst?
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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I'm having a similar problem. Accept mine feels like there is too much room to the right of 5th. This makes it hard to hit sometimes

uh... something like this

135__
24_R

I guess this makes sense though, because the thing I like most about it is that the gears feel closer together, hence short "throw". But I do wish 5th was easier to hit. I'm thinking of fitting a metal plate in there as a stop.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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Adjust your cables.

short shifters arent "plug and play"
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrage06
I'm having a similar problem. Accept mine feels like there is too much room to the right of 5th. This makes it hard to hit sometimes

uh... something like this

135__
24_R

I guess this makes sense though, because the thing I like most about it is that the gears feel closer together, hence short "throw". But I do wish 5th was easier to hit. I'm thinking of fitting a metal plate in there as a stop.
Yea thats exactly wat im talkin about

Originally Posted by an0malous
Adjust your cables.

short shifters arent "plug and play"
I did and it made no difference

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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
Adjust your cables.

short shifters arent "plug and play"
how do you do that? and how should I adjust them?
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PolishPauL
I dont like how fifth is on my Hurst shifter. The gears look something like:

1 3 5
2 4 __ R

Is there any way to make them:

1 3 5
2 4 R

I want it like stock so that when you push it to the right from neutral, you can push it all the way to the right and up to get into 5th or reverse. Are all short shifters like the Hurst?
Does your lock out still work? If not then thats why it feel like that. The lock out used to stop the shifter from going too far to the right (aka as if you were going to use reverse) and thats why it felt like it was going all the way to the right. There's a reason its set up with the extra rightward movement...its so you can't inadvertently knock the shifter into reverse while driving in 5th. Yes sounds stupid but thats how it is. Leave it alone.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrage06
I'm having a similar problem. Accept mine feels like there is too much room to the right of 5th. This makes it hard to hit sometimes

uh... something like this

135__
24_R

I guess this makes sense though, because the thing I like most about it is that the gears feel closer together, hence short "throw". But I do wish 5th was easier to hit. I'm thinking of fitting a metal plate in there as a stop.
Agree i hate trying to get into 5th as well, i find i swing it too far out
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Apex
Agree i hate trying to get into 5th as well, i find i swing it too far out
yup yup... when quick shifting, i miss it every time.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PolishPauL
I did and it made no difference
then you didnt do it properly.
keep trying.


guys seriously, this is ALL in the cables.
you have to spend some time with it to get them adjusted properly.

my hurst gates into 5th exactly like stock.
reverse and reverse lockout works perfectly.
you cant expect to change the entire geometry of your shifter, and expect the cables to just clip up and be perfect.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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I have to say I have tried to adjust my cables as well and it's still off.

Mine is just like your roadrage

135__
24_R

My reverse lock out doesn't work either so I guess once you can get that to work the rest will be back to normal. I have tried though. I hate it so much i'm about to put the stocker back in. I don't fell much of a difference anyway.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
then you didnt do it properly.
keep trying.


guys seriously, this is ALL in the cables.
you have to spend some time with it to get them adjusted properly.

my hurst gates into 5th exactly like stock.
reverse and reverse lockout works perfectly.
you cant expect to change the entire geometry of your shifter, and expect the cables to just clip up and be perfect.
following the directions tells you to mark and clip back on the cables exactly where they were originally
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by hawlyns711
following the directions tells you to mark and clip back on the cables exactly where they were originally
and hows that workin out for ya?



if your 5th gear gate goes past the gear,
move your shifter to the CORRECT 5th gear position, and MARK THE CABLE.
then move the shifter back to neutral, unclip it, and move it the distance that it was out, then reclip it.
do this a few times, by trial and error until its perfect.

ugh i feel another video howto coming on :X
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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that would help
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
and hows that workin out for ya?



if your 5th gear gate goes past the gear,
move your shifter to the CORRECT 5th gear position, and MARK THE CABLE.
then move the shifter back to neutral, unclip it, and move it the distance that it was out, then reclip it.
do this a few times, by trial and error until its perfect.

ugh i feel another video howto coming on :X
mine works fine, but a video how-to couldn't hurt! *nudge nudge*
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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yeah, because, i installed my own. And i know it was a while ago, but after seeing what's in there, i don't know what you're talking about.. sry

a drawing would even help...lol.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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yeah because the picture ones dont do it justice
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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god damnit.
its ****** cold outside right now, even in my garage :P
snowed a few inches lastnight.

Ill think about it.

i forget (been a while since i installed), can you adjust the cables without taking the top guard off?
or can you see it ok just removing the shifter boot?

if i can make a vid just removing the shifter boot ill probably go do one.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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ok, thanks.

Also, to get my shifter H-diagram to face the right direction I had to twist the shifter so the bottom of it was no longer parallel with the guard housing thing.
I'd like to also add that this corrected how loose the shifter was before, it no longer rotates back and forth. But it made it harder to get into first. So, how correct is this?
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by roadrage06
yup yup... when quick shifting, i miss it every time.
why are you quick shifting into an overdrive gear?

Originally Posted by roadrage06
ok, thanks.

Also, to get my shifter H-diagram to face the right direction I had to twist the shifter so the bottom of it was no longer parallel with the guard housing thing.
I'd like to also add that this corrected how loose the shifter was before, it no longer rotates back and forth. But it made it harder to get into first. So, how correct is this?
The knob and the and piece just below it are counter rotating and will lock together. You loosen the knob or the counter piece and put the know into the right position and tighten the counter piece until they are very very snug. You need a huge crescent wrench to do this.

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i forget (been a while since i installed), can you adjust the cables without taking the top guard off?
or can you see it ok just removing the shifter boot?
I don't think you can. When I installed I was told to mark the cabls and put them back exactly where they were with the regular shifter or else the car wouldn't shift.

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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
and hows that workin out for ya?



if your 5th gear gate goes past the gear,
move your shifter to the CORRECT 5th gear position, and MARK THE CABLE.
then move the shifter back to neutral, unclip it, and move it the distance that it was out, then reclip it.
do this a few times, by trial and error until its perfect.

ugh i feel another video howto coming on :X
Hows that how to video comin along
A pic showing exactly where you need to clip the shifter would be more then good enough
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