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SMG's first...REMOTE MOUNT TURBO TWINCHARGED LSJ!!!

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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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341whp and 308wtq



This is the dyno compared to my 2.6 just supercharged. blue is the 2.6 and red is the twincharged

Doesn't even look like the supercharger is helping do anything. Should have just went turbo and probably had an even quicker spool up.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
Doesn't even look like the supercharger is helping do anything. Should have just went turbo and probably had an even quicker spool up.
exactly what i was thinking.. wheres what's his names GT35R turbo dyno when he put down like 350 whp i'd like to see them side by side

none the less piping and everything looks much cleaner
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:34 AM
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You can lay that graph over mine and see what the difference is. His spool is much quicker. See if Fred can overlay them then post it up.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:57 AM
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i bet that this is a blast on the street
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 08:05 AM
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i went for a ride in the first one and all i can say is weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lol
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by slowswap
Doesn't even look like the supercharger is helping do anything. Should have just went turbo and probably had an even quicker spool up.
That is because he is on stock pulley. You can see in the graph where only the Supercharger is making boost. Then the turbo starts to spool.

They should put the 2.6" back on there and try it again!
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 12:33 PM
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yeah it sort of falls off inbetween. looks like with the current set up you would be better off with straight turbo
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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when your cruising down the highway minding your own buisness and a car runs by you, this setup will run away from a turbo only setup, thats the beauty of having both
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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it doesnt appear that way from the dyno though
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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talking from riding in their first twincharged car that thing got up and went like crazy.
it had a N/A style pull to it all the way from the bottom till redline. it was great
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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nice Dyno's dont tell the whole story for sure
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by freakta
when your cruising down the highway minding your own buisness and a car runs by you, this setup will run away from a turbo only setup, thats the beauty of having both
A proper turbo setup making the same power, will beat this setup. The dyno graph doesn't lie, well it can, but they clearly didn't with this graph.



ZZP's setup clearly shows a better torque curve for the twin charge setup. I have feeling something is not setup properly to take advantage of the supercharger. Your graph looks more like a turbo only graph.



Compare them all.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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I run the same turbo. I dynoed @ the same place. Lay his over mine and you will see it clearly has more early HP.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxim_X
I run the same turbo. I dynoed @ the same place. Lay his over mine and you will see it clearly has more early HP.
GT3582r as a remote mount on a 4 cylinder? I would like to see the graphs overlayed if they were both run at the same PSI.

EDIT: And if you were both running same PSI elimanating, we can already see which setup is more efficient considering you've broken 400 whp and he hasn't.

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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 01:00 AM
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i'm trying to find a graph to overlay .. but i can't find it .. post it up maxim
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 04:26 AM
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I'm not remote mounted and I run more boost. Personally I'd say my setup is more efficient, making more power in the top end, but, he makes more power over the curve.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxim_X
I'm not remote mounted and I run more boost. Personally I'd say my setup is more efficient, making more power in the top end, but, he makes more power over the curve.
post up your graph from when you dynoe ld like 351 or whatever
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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So what did this set up actually run you of you don't mind me asking. I think there's more work to be done here but I think this could turn out to be a great seat up in the end!
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Old Mar 27, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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whats the cost?
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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Call smg and talk to Fred about cost
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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Next time your in the shop do you wanna post his dyno over mine?

And where is that dyno vid you took of my car?
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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I talked to Fred today about doing this on my car. He said he's gonna be doing another kit soon on a lowered car to see he'd have any issues. He said he doesn't think he will the turbo is tucked up in there pretty good, the only area he might is the pipe that runs over the passager side axle.

He said there thinking the kit will be around 3grand and should be up on the site soon!
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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So what is the latest on this?
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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probably just more fail
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
probably just more fail
fail? it seemed to work fine
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