What's with all the hatin' on the 2.4 SS? I agree the 4 door SS is silly, but the 2 door?

It doesn't just have a dang spoiler on it. The suspension is upgraded, and the engine puts out a heck of a lot more than the 2.2.

The Malibu ss is rediculous...but all you SC guys...come on. Superchargers aren't all that, and you know it. And your "wing" isn't impressive either. The SC has a slightly better suspension and a good shifter, and a slip diff if you want it.

I could get your extra 30 horses out of a good intake.

I'm not hating on the SC...just don't dog the 2.4 SS...because if it's not an SS, the SC ain't a whole lot more. The 2.4 SS is just out of the league of the 2.2...that's why it gets the SS...

IMO!!!

 

Not goona start an aruguement with ya but.....

Why are you discriminating 2 dr SS VS 4 dr SS (2.4L SS)? Less the 100lbs difference between the 2.

So no 4 dr SS cars? 303hp Impala are low 14 sec.

I think SS should be defined by its performance REALITIVE to its competion. 2.4L SS is at or near the top in the NA 4cly league.

If ANYTHING the 2.4L SS automatics are ridiculous. Not the Malibu. Its a very low 15 sec as opposed to mid to high 15 sec for the auto 2.4L SS.

I am not hating on the 2.4L auto SS just poinitng out some inconstiencies. But it is the slowest.

YOur never gonna get 30hp from an intake. Say you add more mods to equal 30hp---your still down form the S/C because its UNDERRATED--the 205hp GM rates it at is a joke, its too low.

 

Well to use your horsepower point of 30 HP to the ss/sc , your only 30 hp more that the 2.2, not the heck of alot more that you stated . If you can get 30 hp out of an intake (lol) then so can a 2.2 , i dont hate any of the cobalts , but your point about horsepower is exactly what a 2.2 guy could say right back at ya .

Most ss/sc dynoed put between 215-220 hp to the wheels , so at the motor its got to be atleast 235hp at the crank

 

Stop bashing the malibu SS, i had one, although it was a '74. It was this color except not 2 tone

 

Wow you can feel the love for the 2.4 SS in here can't you? Geeez guys whats with the hate? Seriously I could care less if GM called the car an RS, Sport, or whatever I bought the car because my wife wouldn't learn how to drive a 5 speed and I needed the 2 extra doors for my kids and my puppy. If GM changes it tommorrow I could care less mine is still an SS and I don't see where I need to justify that to anyone on here! Its MY car and I make the payments, now should anyone want to make the payments for me and want me to take off the SS emblems then I'd say sure. But till then its an SS, its a real SS cause its badged from GM not me as an SS.

end rant.

 

Yai!!

 

Good Point!! I agree with your comment even though I have the 2dr 5-speed 2.4. No matter what anyone on here says, it's still a REAL SS badged from GM.

 

Of course it's a "real" SS. It was badged by Chevrolet as SS. You imagine the SS badge, so it must be real. The issue we're debating is whether Chevrolet got too loose badging SS on two-thirds of the Cobalt engines. I personally have a lot of respect for the SS badge and the RS badge that's on my buddy's Camaro. I'd badge the 2.4 RS and the 2.0 SS because I think that there can only be one best engine. I'd say the same thing about classics that had multiple engine options.

 

2 of the 3 engine options, sure. But its not 2/3 of sales though; they build and sell a whole lot more 2.2 Cobalts than either of the SS models combined.

 

That's very true. I'm just saying that the SS badge should be elite and limited to very high performance and the 2.4L model isn't really that much faster than the 2.2L.

 

Well, I agree there should only be one SS badge. But I have no problems witht he 2.4L at all, I don't think it should have the SS badge.

And its agreed, lets just get along and have respect for each other!

 

I think Chevy did a phenomenal job with naming both of the SS's. First off, the SS/SC doesn't have much more hp but it sits right in the middle of a performance class of SRT-4, RSX Type-S, and similar cars and with some money they can be up there with the EVO and STi. It was also wise to put the SS badge on the 2.4 because that car also sits right in the middle of an even LARGER category of cars with similar performance. RSX, Tiburon, Eclipse, Mazda 6, too many to name. The only flaw that I see that they did not follow through with was that they should have slapped a 2.4 right before that SS just so there would be less confusion. Chevy has done a great job with both cars with attuning to the tuner market and putting these 2 Cobalt's right in the middle of the pack; usually on top (in the 2.4 case). As for the 4-door, I completely agree with every word of anyone that says it does not deserve an SS badge. Sorry other 2.4 dudes but it doesn't. It's a sedan and weighs more putting it even below the Acura RSX non type-S. They should have put a different badge on it or not even have made the 2.4 4-door altogether. So I compliment GM on making the Cobalt like the way it is and they changed the automotive market by doing this. It has generated hype around the car, which is why so many people have one. GM

 

Oh I am SOOOOOO getting flamed for this I can see it coming! But here goes! Honestly IMO NONE of our Cobalts should have an SS on them! SS should be for high performance cars only! And high performance = RWD! Flame all you want but the majority of the worlds automotive population knows that a RWD car is for performance and an FWD car economy. Seriously! How many FWD BMW's have you ever seen? How bout Porsche? Maybe Ferreri? I know! A FWD Lambo! LOL! FWD Corvette? Nope try again.

Sure you can make an economy car quick but they can't be fast...... (shrug) sorry.

Turbos, superchargers all are great at artificialy adding cubic inches but the old saying....
no replacement for displacement, yeah its true. Sure you can boost the living **** out of a 4 cylinder car to get it to be as fast as or even faster then a V-8, but guess what! YOU can do the same thing to a V-8 and then its out of your leauge once again!

Our cars, as much as some of you may hate to admit are made for one thing only...go from A to B and do it cheaply. Options may add a few grand and more ponies but in the end our beloved little Cobalt is an economy car.

 

While i do agree with alot of what you have said, there is a few things that i think you overlooked.

There is a reason that the FWD forced induction market is taking off, and its a little thing called price. FWD cars are cheaper to manufacturer and cost significantley less to produce.

The goal of these hopped up "economy cars" is to get the most performance/handling that you can for your dollar. Alot of modern car guys don't care what type of drivetrain the car has, they just want to go as fast as they can as cheaply and reliably as possible!

And with the modern pricing of modern day "muscle cars" aka GTO, Charger, Mustang GT with half decent options, it is obvious what the better bang for buck is!!!

 

well i like my '06 cobalt SS 2.4 liter vvt ecotec engine and i think it deserves the SS badge. i believe the only choices there should be in 2 SS trims for the same vehicle are one with the engine that has been tweaked with more attention given to it and then the other SS trim being the same or different engine with a boosted aplication (exact situation with the cobalts). not everyone would like to have a supercharged vehicle for reasons such as the manual not being as convientent as an automatic and before ANYONE bashes the automatics, they should do their homework and see how many professional race cars ARE automatics. another reason is that a person may want a little car with some pep, but not a supercharger which may be overkill for their own personal needs.

personally, i didnt see the SS madness but i did think it was odd to see tahoe SS's and malibu SS's running around. i've been told too that the 2.4 is a bigger engine than the 2.0. on the other hand, i've been told that the 2.4 is just a 2.0 and the only difference being that the 2.4 ports are larger. i dont know which is true, but make no mistake, the 2.4 with a boosted aplication from what i've heard is going to be a little torquey bastard to say the least.

let gm do what they want with the SS badge. a lot of people are debadging their cobalts anyways so wtf is the point in bitching about which cobalt gets the SS badge if you're just going to take the damn things off? and if you dont like how your personal vehicle performs, afraid that you'll get made fun of because of some piece of plastic, do what everyone else does and buy aftermarket parts or better yet, buy a new damn car. people saying that only the cobalt SS/SC should receive the badge is fruitless, pure speculation, and doesnt amount to jack ****. i got mine as a graduation gift and i'll be damned if i see someone **** on my car's name.

 

I tend to have to agree with what you've said here.

 

So I guess th LS on mine stands for LoSer, now.

Bob

 

well mine has no more badges.... mines a ******* cobalt... I know its fast, ill leave everyone else guessing....

And just not just RWD are high performance....

and you could NEVER get 30 HP from "just an intake" you are retarded......

 

i think the "ss" label should be strictly for rear wheel drive V8's like back in the day.

 

You're not out of line by saying any of what you just said. I've said some of that.

On the other hand, I strongly believe that the 2.0L Cobalt does deserve the SS badge due to it's competition. We need to look at the class the the Cobalt represents. We drive a sport compact, which by definition is sporty to a small extent. Yes—for the most part, this car is economy, but how many economy cars come supercharged from the factory? The Neon and the Elantra sure as hell don't.

We can't compare our cars to fine European luxury cars like Lamborghinis. That's an insult to a quality car like the Gallardo. We need to respect the fact that Lamborghinis are multiple classes above most Chevrolet cars.

While we can't compare the styling or performance of a 200hp Chevy to a car with over double that power, we can definitely make this car fast. Within reason, we can make the Cobalt fast. Our class of cars includes a lot of quality competion, and some of us are beating cars that are definitely above our power output on sheer driving skill and raw delicious speed.

In my opinion, buying a Lamborghini is not worth the price tag. They are gorgeous and ridiculously fast, but the insurance is straight-up outrageous and there is no reason to have a daily driver that you'd be that scared of scratching the paint. They are too nice for real life. Driving a Lamborghini to class everyday would be like going to McDonald's in a tuxedo. It's overkill.

 

This was dying. You should be shot for bringing it back.

 

I probably should be.

 

Agree 100%.

 

i have 2.4 SS and i was thinking the same thing exactly. if they made this for only one year. this will be an extemely rare car years from now

 

Rare? Possibly.

Collector's car? Never.

******* for reviving this stupid-ass thread again? Definitely.