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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_1988
and thats the reason i love my 07 as well it was only made two years as the officially factory deemed SS and later down the line im talking like 35 years it might be a rare car im not sayin it was the best but it was still a decent car thats just my opinion though
though if you go by the numbers there are probably less 08 sports made than 06-07 SS 2.4s.
Though honestly I cant imagine a 2.4 ever being with much
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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I love my 2.4. The auto tranny it came with is strong, as well as the engine itself. Hasn't let me down yet, even after beating on it with the supercharger
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Old Nov 27, 2009 | 07:03 AM
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slap your self and then say ima dumb bitch. do it about 5 times =D thanks
LMFAO! then do it another 5 just because

Originally Posted by blk06cbltss
slap your self and then say ima dumb bitch. do it about 5 times =D thanks
lmfao!
then do it about another 5 more times..just because

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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by blk06cbltss
the slapping your self part was about how the sc souldnt be bagded ss but the tc should and a true ss is 265hp but the tc isnt even 265whp lol.
Who said anything about whp?
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JTurner.CTN
Who said anything about whp?

either way who cares... we all know an SS isn't just an SS because of power it's also better brakes, suspension, exterior as well as interior appearance. That article is written by someone who doesn't work for Chevrolet so who are they to say what power numbers need to be acheived to call something an SS? As long as people read garbage they will believe it. Just drive all the models and see what you think is a super sport.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC
eh everyone makes a big deal out of the SS badge should only be on one motor....

Guess was it wasnt in the day.

Anyone remember? SS 350 SS 396. Even back in the day the SS moniker was on multiple Engine choices. Now everyone is acting like its the holygrail...

so true. i have a 67 Impala SS with a 283, you could also get the same SS car with a 427. the SS was aPerformance Option and RS wasa Styling option.

in 69 they had RS/SS Camaros with 350's and SS's with 396's so the SS/TC or SC was an SS and the 2.4 was an RS/SS. if you wanna go by old school GM terminology
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by msfitoy
Imagine the confusion caused when owners of SRT8 gets passed by so many "no badge" Cobalt...
Yeah, then he'll probably think it was some super-tuner car...no badges and all...

I wish they'd even differentiate between the SC and TC cars. (Sorry SC guys) but unless the SC's had some serious work the TC's going to shame it.

A guy I work with has an '04 GTO said "I blew one of those SS's away the other day...and it was a TWO door... No way you stand a chance.."

So, even though I detest that straight-line **** I said I'd run him. I spun it up pretty good in 1st but by the time I hit 3rd I pulled past him.

We later talked and he was asking me what I'd had done to my car.

I said NOTHING...well except the 'shorty' antenna... :-)

Originally Posted by Projekt
someone on here once said it the best.

2.2=daily driver rental car

SS/NA= a car high school kids buy, quick but still slow

SS/SC (AND NOT LNF) was more a enthusiasts car

obviously this sparked a long thread of hate..but it really did make sense (i owned a SS/NA at the time)
And the SS/TC (YES LNF) is the TRUE sports/racer car... better power, better brakes etc...

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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it is like a GT mustang with a v6 engine, lol.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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They got it right in 08.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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put it this way does any other auto maker have 2 versions of there highest model...no...srt4-nope-sti nope-evo nope-svt nope-type s nope-Si nope- all of the sporty lines of all automaker all have one kind of model....focus on one model GM and go with it. and do it right the first time *********
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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You guys are acting like the entire car should of never been made. The only mistake was putting "ss" badges on two different trims. No reason to put down the 2.4 because of what it was labeled. It's a good alternative for people that want an upgrade over the base and a more sporty car with the auto tranny, since the 2.0 didn't offer an auto
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by hugemurph4
put it this way does any other auto maker have 2 versions of there highest model...no...srt4-nope-sti nope-evo nope-svt nope-type s nope-Si nope- all of the sporty lines of all automaker all have one kind of model....focus on one model GM and go with it. and do it right the first time *********
Actually Dodge did have a non turbo SRT neon. But it wasnt labeled the SRT4. It had a smaller wing dual exhaust and a smaller hood with a smaller scoop on it. It was all around less.....

And if you wish to get technical Ford has had a few different version of the Focus top of the line models.


As I said before the SS label is not the holygrail of the GM performance world. SS badging of the 2.4 was technically correct if you trace gm's history of vehicles from the late 60's up. Did it cause confusion? Yes.

But why are all of you SC and TC guys complaining? People will race 2.4 autos beat them and then think you are the same thing. Stop complaining! Go up to the douche bag act like an idiot throw some money on the line and run em! Make some money off of their ignorance! Problem solved!
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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you cant just have an RS paskage though because The 2.2 Cobalt is really just an LS theres nothing special looking about is
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by demento
I got the 08 Sport because I did'nt want a turbo or super charged 2.0 to have expensive break downs in the future and I bought mine because it looks good and beats Honda's so that's all I care about. And as for Cobalts being badged SS only the turbo should be badged SS and the super charged should of been badged RS. as the artical said a hp rating of 265 was a true SS
lol i would love to run you in my 08 si sedan, i murder balts all day, esp. slowauto's haha

with aem cai, skunk2 4-2-1 header, skunk2 70mm mega power cat-back, flashpro, injected mounts, t/b/s, and i/m/g im putting down 219.4whp... puuhhleassseeee
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 2007ecotec2.2
lol i would love to run you in my 08 si sedan, i murder balts all day, esp. slowauto's haha

with aem cai, skunk2 4-2-1 header, skunk2 70mm mega power cat-back, flashpro, injected mounts, t/b/s, and i/m/g im putting down 219.4whp... puuhhleassseeee
so your more of a run for an equal 2.4 5 spd full bolt on and tune car than a 2.4 auto. I can give stock Si's like yours a hell of a run. But cant truly beat them. Youd still have hp on the 2.4 but itd definitely have tq on you.

As far as beating hondas so far ive beat a decent amount of them.

97 B18b1 b16 trans swapped civic coupe
98 b18c1 LS trans swapped civic sedan
93 H23 prelude 5 spd full exhaust and intake
93 H23 prelude 5 spd stock
98 Acura RL (lol why not...)
95 civic coupe d16 auto (dont ask he was messing with me)
07 Si sedan (technically a tie but hey I was happy)
So the 2.4 auto's can hold their ground.
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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well ive never raced many cars with my civicm a few though, i ran my buddies 06 gti w/ intake and smoked him from a roll by 2-3 cars, amd a 3000gt mods unknown i beat him from a roll on the highway. ive had a balt and have been in lots of others and there are reasons why ive left the domestic scene. i ran a b18c5 teg and got smoked in my balt, and i got ass raped by an h22 swapped accord lol
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2007ecotec2.2
well ive never raced many cars with my civicm a few though, i ran my buddies 06 gti w/ intake and smoked him from a roll by 2-3 cars, amd a 3000gt mods unknown i beat him from a roll on the highway. ive had a balt and have been in lots of others and there are reasons why ive left the domestic scene. i ran a b18c5 teg and got smoked in my balt, and i got ass raped by an h22 swapped accord lol

As far as the 3000GT that was an SL you ran.

you also had a 2.2.

The 2.4 or 2.0 SC or 2.0 TC wouldve given you a better taste.
Mine is slow as hell. But from what ive noticed 15.3 is probably a good estimate of what I run with a barely modded 2.4 auto.
If I ran a b18c5 with a B16 or GSR trans id get walked. Period. Id hold in there for a bit due to the tq difference (around 40ft lbs difference stock). But hed walk me on the top end.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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HEY! i like my rental car.

it was all i could afford at teh time.
same here. 121K and nearly 5 years later my rental is still kicking. altho its been showing its age lately.

for smaller rwd coupes i was really hoping the genesis would be about 10% smaller. if they ever make something the cobalts size in rwd with 4 seats im in. isnt the toyota FT86 supposed to be something like that??? but then again id have to own a toyota.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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I hope GM comes out with a Cruze SS coupe. I like the mix of fuel economy and performance that my Cobalt provides. A RWD coupe (smaller and lighter than a Camaro) with a turbo 4 banger would be a good move IMO. A think a lot of potential buyers were turned off by the Cobalt SS's FWD platform. I like FWD for winter driving though.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bumpin Balt
I hope GM comes out with a Cruze SS coupe. I like the mix of fuel economy and performance that my Cobalt provides. A RWD coupe (smaller and lighter than a Camaro) with a turbo 4 banger would be a good move IMO. A think a lot of potential buyers were turned off by the Cobalt SS's FWD platform. I like FWD for winter driving though.
what about an AWD turboed SS???? *flame suit on* i think it would pretty kool. then that leads me to the question, 300-400hp motor and tranny + lotus elise style lightwieght body + comfort and ride of a caddy or equal ride + good aerodynamics = one kick ass car
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Caivn
what about an AWD turboed SS???? *flame suit on* i think it would pretty kool. then that leads me to the question, 300-400hp motor and tranny + lotus elise style lightwieght body + comfort and ride of a caddy or equal ride + good aerodynamics = one kick ass car
Prepare to dish out 40+ large for something of that nature.
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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what about an AWD turboed SS???? *flame suit on* i think it would pretty kool. then that leads me to the question, 300-400hp motor and tranny + lotus elise style lightwieght body + comfort and ride of a caddy or equal ride + good aerodynamics = one kick ass car
thats blasphemy@! kill the sinner!
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Caivn
what about an AWD turboed SS???? *flame suit on* i think it would pretty kool. then that leads me to the question, 300-400hp motor and tranny + lotus elise style lightwieght body + comfort and ride of a caddy or equal ride + good aerodynamics = one kick ass car
its possible for less than 30K for AWD and 300HP. its not gonna ride like a caddy, that would be pointless, and im willing to bet the cobalt has pretty decent aerodynamics now. but the market isnt big enought to warrant the engineering costs
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LS6Rally
i have 2.4 SS and i always said it shouldve been an RS package, which was aloways an appearance package. and now they have the Cobalt LS 3. which is all the SS/NA trim with a 2.2 which is truly an RS car.
you got a 2.4 you should just throw a Sport badge on that piece
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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hugemurph4
put it this way does any other auto maker have 2 versions of there highest model...no...srt4-nope-sti nope-evo nope-svt nope-type s nope-Si nope- all of the sporty lines of all automaker all have one kind of model....focus on one model GM and go with it. and do it right the first time *********
Lancer does...GTS (FWD no turbo), RalliArt (AWD small turbo), EVO (AWD big turbo) and new EVO hatch... Everyone likes something different, for the price of the 'balt, why not? STI, EVO, and type S are all wayy over priced. Why not offer models in various price ranges? They obv sold a **** ton if you're seeing them all over, no matter which model.

Look how many RS models were sold in the past... people who know can tell no matter what it's badged...just laugh when they talk **** and you spank them
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