155mph
Originally Posted by codyss
And chipmonk212121 get off the whole speedo error **** allready, your wrong.
Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
not really.... and im not the only one to mention it. and unless you can radar prove that you can hit 155 in a stock cobalt, it isnt happening. The speedometer is off.
Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
please let me know where I am wrong...... I dont admit to knowing everything. If I am incorrect, feel free to correct me. I would rather not go around with false information in my hands. But to the best of my knowledgem everythig I said was correct.
Also today ony my way home I maxed out 4th gear at 130 with my stock PCM. Didnt go into 5th as it was dark and didnt want some coyote running out in front of me and making pureed coyote....
Also today ony my way home I maxed out 4th gear at 130 with my stock PCM. Didnt go into 5th as it was dark and didnt want some coyote running out in front of me and making pureed coyote....
lets review you previous post
EX-*******-ACTLY! The PCM is limited at 158. But there is this thing called AIR and it prevents you from actually hitting that speed. It doesnt matter if your speedometer says your going 155. Speedometers are off 90% of the time from the factory. Mine says im going 29 when I am going 30. Imagine what it would do at 140...
Also EVERY car is limited to a speed from the factory. Z rated tires, I believe, are rated at like 189 MPH or something close to that.
States do not limit how fast a car can go because of the fact that car doesnt have a set destination. Also the cars can be used on closed courses and there is no limitation to what you can do there. The law can only control what the cars are supposed to do on the road in public places. If they controlled it all, the cars would all be governed at whatever the highest speed limit is in the country. lol imagine the gearing on the 6-speed corvette that is only allowed to go 65 MPH in Illinois! haha
Also EVERY car is limited to a speed from the factory. Z rated tires, I believe, are rated at like 189 MPH or something close to that.
States do not limit how fast a car can go because of the fact that car doesnt have a set destination. Also the cars can be used on closed courses and there is no limitation to what you can do there. The law can only control what the cars are supposed to do on the road in public places. If they controlled it all, the cars would all be governed at whatever the highest speed limit is in the country. lol imagine the gearing on the 6-speed corvette that is only allowed to go 65 MPH in Illinois! haha
I have a GPS unit that says I have gone faster than 155. How wrong are GPS units?
Z rated tires are rated at 168
Y rated tires are rated at 189
States do limit how fast cars go, its called a speed limit. Its up to the individual to obey the laws imposed by the state. Consequences follow for not doing so.
The gearing of said corvette would be the same no matter where you buy it. Think GM will custom make a set of gears for 1 state, I doubt it.
An FYI while on the dyno my car hit 155 in 4th gear. Granted, this wasn't on the street, the car is more than capable of doing speeds in excess of 150.
I honestly love hearing all the 'internet experts' explain what a person can and cannot do with the cars.
Originally Posted by codyss
Also most GM ECM units are programmable to a max speed limiter of 255mph, that should take care of anyones needs.
Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
Also EVERY car is limited to a speed from the factory. Z rated tires, I believe, are rated at like 189 MPH or something close to that.
Originally Posted by cobss187
Not really, depends on the car itself. Not all cars are the same outta the factory, with stage 2 i have to shift to fifth at 143
Doc, while you're usually right about a lot of things, Z-rated tires are actually 149+. When they first hit the market, they were thought to be as fast a tire as anyone would ever need. As cars got faster, people wanted to know exactly *how* much over 149 they could go. Hence the introduction of W (168 mph) and Y (186 mph) tires, both of which are also Z-rated.
And to get to 155 in 4th, you've got to be spinning the engine at 7600 rpm, or have some insanely large tires. (you are running 20s though, aren't you, so I guess it's not out of the question!)
The car is geared to hit 143 in 4th at 7k rpm, on the stock tire size, and I'm pretty sure that's something that doesn't vary from car to car.
And to get to 155 in 4th, you've got to be spinning the engine at 7600 rpm, or have some insanely large tires. (you are running 20s though, aren't you, so I guess it's not out of the question!)
The car is geared to hit 143 in 4th at 7k rpm, on the stock tire size, and I'm pretty sure that's something that doesn't vary from car to car.
Originally Posted by Doc
I have a GPS unit that says I have gone faster than 155. How wrong are GPS units?
Z rated tires are rated at 168
Y rated tires are rated at 189
The gearing of said corvette would be the same no matter where you buy it. Think GM will custom make a set of gears for 1 state, I doubt it.
An FYI while on the dyno my car hit 155 in 4th gear..
Z rated tires are rated at 168
Y rated tires are rated at 189
The gearing of said corvette would be the same no matter where you buy it. Think GM will custom make a set of gears for 1 state, I doubt it.
An FYI while on the dyno my car hit 155 in 4th gear..
Second, You are modified and I said NOTHING about modified cars. I said Stock cars with STOCK PCMs. And GPS units are not 100% correct. If they were, they wouldnt say that they are only accurate within 3 meters.
Third, I didnt say that Z rated was exactly 189, I said it was somewhere around there. My argument was that cars are limited to the rating of their tires. Why do you think most cars are limited at 107?
Fourth, nobody said anything about how fast a car can go on a dyno. That information is useless in this argument.
Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
WOW 10 seconds to hit 155? I had no Idea your car was running 9's LOL
it probably took you more like 30-35 seconds :-)
it probably took you more like 30-35 seconds :-)
If u read his post a little more clearly, it was 10-15 seconds to get from 150 to 155.... not to 155
I've hit only 145 with just an exhaust. It would not go any faster than that. I was only around the low 5000 rpm range. But let me tell you, I will never do taht again. That's a little on the fast side for me.
Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
Fourth, nobody said anything about how fast a car can go on a dyno. That information is useless in this argument.
Originally Posted by xskier874
actually not really, if he says he went 155mph in 4th on a dyno it means that there was no govenor limiting him to 140mph...
Originally Posted by SilverBalt
If u read his post a little more clearly, it was 10-15 seconds to get from 150 to 155.... not to 155
Originally Posted by Tomtwtwtw
Doc, while you're usually right about a lot of things, Z-rated tires are actually 149+. When they first hit the market, they were thought to be as fast a tire as anyone would ever need. As cars got faster, people wanted to know exactly *how* much over 149 they could go. Hence the introduction of W (168 mph) and Y (186 mph) tires, both of which are also Z-rated.
And to get to 155 in 4th, you've got to be spinning the engine at 7600 rpm, or have some insanely large tires. (you are running 20s though, aren't you, so I guess it's not out of the question!)
The car is geared to hit 143 in 4th at 7k rpm, on the stock tire size, and I'm pretty sure that's something that doesn't vary from car to car.
And to get to 155 in 4th, you've got to be spinning the engine at 7600 rpm, or have some insanely large tires. (you are running 20s though, aren't you, so I guess it's not out of the question!)
The car is geared to hit 143 in 4th at 7k rpm, on the stock tire size, and I'm pretty sure that's something that doesn't vary from car to car.
I actually had the 20's on when it went to 155 in 4th and the speed came off the dyno not the speedo.
Originally Posted by codyss
chipmonk212121 just keep digging your hole buddy.
**** it, Im just gonna stop arguing. If I dont stop, nobody else will..... I know im not gonna say im wrong and neither will anyone else. Its a free country, you can believe what you want and I can believe what I want.
Look, with all that has been said in this thread can anyone tell me why my car will only do 140mph stock and modified with a Injen CAI? The CAI made very little differance in 1st and 2nd, but car does pull harder in 3rd and 4th. Still will not go faster than 140mph though. Did everycar come with 4.08 gears from factory, cause mabey that is why? I'm not really sure. Not try to star any problems with people, just really want to know why car will only do 140mph. I've seen the pics of others speedo's showing over 150mph, just wonder why my car is differant?
Originally Posted by HViper
Look, with all that has been said in this thread can anyone tell me why my car will only do 140mph stock and modified with a Injen CAI? The CAI made very little differance in 1st and 2nd, but car does pull harder in 3rd and 4th. Still will not go faster than 140mph though. Did everycar come with 4.08 gears from factory, cause mabey that is why? I'm not really sure. Not try to star any problems with people, just really want to know why car will only do 140mph. I've seen the pics of others speedo's showing over 150mph, just wonder why my car is differant?
Originally Posted by HViper
Look, with all that has been said in this thread can anyone tell me why my car will only do 140mph stock and modified with a Injen CAI? The CAI made very little differance in 1st and 2nd, but car does pull harder in 3rd and 4th. Still will not go faster than 140mph though. Did everycar come with 4.08 gears from factory, cause mabey that is why? I'm not really sure. Not try to star any problems with people, just really want to know why car will only do 140mph. I've seen the pics of others speedo's showing over 150mph, just wonder why my car is differant?
But even with the thinner air the CAI incresed my HP and gave me better airflow, my car still tops our at 140mph. I could be wrong, but shouldnt the CAI at least increased my top speed 2 or 3mph?
Originally Posted by HViper
But even with the thinner air the CAI incresed my HP and gave me better airflow, my car still tops our at 140mph. I could be wrong, but shouldnt the CAI at least increased my top speed 2 or 3mph?
if your car has 205 stock and that thinner air robs 15hp while your injen gains 5. you are still at 195. Im sure someone else can explain it more in depth. but its something along the lines of that.
Will do, I've driven from Vegas to Phoenix many times, but not in my new Cobalt. It would be fun, long desert straght aways, and lots of mountain curves. I have freinds who live there. It would be fun to get some pics of my car on the hoover dam. Probaly actully be going this fall though. Hope car will hit 140mph by then, but I will let you know. Probally be the last trip in the Cobalt though, Going to trade it in on the Soltice GXP next Spring.
Originally Posted by HViper
Will do, I've driven from Vegas to Phoenix many times, but not in my new Cobalt. It would be fun, long desert straght aways, and lots of mountain curves. I have freinds who live there. It would be fun to get some pics of my car on the hoover dam. Probaly actully be going this fall though. Hope car will hit 140mph by then, but I will let you know. Probally be the last trip in the Cobalt though, Going to trade it in on the Soltice GXP next Spring.


