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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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And chipmonk212121 get off the whole speedo error **** allready, your wrong.
not really.... and im not the only one to mention it. and unless you can radar prove that you can hit 155 in a stock cobalt, it isnt happening. The speedometer is off.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
not really.... and im not the only one to mention it. and unless you can radar prove that you can hit 155 in a stock cobalt, it isnt happening. The speedometer is off.
What makes you think it cant? Maybe we are doing more if the speedo is off? Saying it cant do 155 when we already have a couple of member that surpased that is kinda ignorant.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
please let me know where I am wrong...... I dont admit to knowing everything. If I am incorrect, feel free to correct me. I would rather not go around with false information in my hands. But to the best of my knowledgem everythig I said was correct.

Also today ony my way home I maxed out 4th gear at 130 with my stock PCM. Didnt go into 5th as it was dark and didnt want some coyote running out in front of me and making pureed coyote....
ok, I will

lets review you previous post

EX-*******-ACTLY! The PCM is limited at 158. But there is this thing called AIR and it prevents you from actually hitting that speed. It doesnt matter if your speedometer says your going 155. Speedometers are off 90% of the time from the factory. Mine says im going 29 when I am going 30. Imagine what it would do at 140...

Also EVERY car is limited to a speed from the factory. Z rated tires, I believe, are rated at like 189 MPH or something close to that.
States do not limit how fast a car can go because of the fact that car doesnt have a set destination. Also the cars can be used on closed courses and there is no limitation to what you can do there. The law can only control what the cars are supposed to do on the road in public places. If they controlled it all, the cars would all be governed at whatever the highest speed limit is in the country. lol imagine the gearing on the 6-speed corvette that is only allowed to go 65 MPH in Illinois! haha
um...you do argue a lot. No need to rehash this.
I have a GPS unit that says I have gone faster than 155. How wrong are GPS units?
Z rated tires are rated at 168
Y rated tires are rated at 189
States do limit how fast cars go, its called a speed limit. Its up to the individual to obey the laws imposed by the state. Consequences follow for not doing so.
The gearing of said corvette would be the same no matter where you buy it. Think GM will custom make a set of gears for 1 state, I doubt it.

An FYI while on the dyno my car hit 155 in 4th gear. Granted, this wasn't on the street, the car is more than capable of doing speeds in excess of 150.
I honestly love hearing all the 'internet experts' explain what a person can and cannot do with the cars.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by codyss
Also most GM ECM units are programmable to a max speed limiter of 255mph, that should take care of anyones needs.
Yeah the Cobalt can go up to 318mph. But with the stock tune and Stage Kits, Zinner is right. The car is set to cutoff at 158mph and resume at 155mph. That is what the video of Darksun shows.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
Also EVERY car is limited to a speed from the factory. Z rated tires, I believe, are rated at like 189 MPH or something close to that.
z rated tires are rated for 149+, they dont say the top limit. thats why they started putting 2 letters on them. i think y's are 189 and w's are 168. they do road races out in west texas too... lots of 200mph+ cars. then theres the silver state classic road race and several others.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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thanks...is there a way you can make that into a banner so i can put it in my signature?
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by cobss187
Not really, depends on the car itself. Not all cars are the same outta the factory, with stage 2 i have to shift to fifth at 143
You're right on that, my old age is starting to affect me and for some reason I was thinking the cutoff was 138, when it's 143. My bad.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Doc, while you're usually right about a lot of things, Z-rated tires are actually 149+. When they first hit the market, they were thought to be as fast a tire as anyone would ever need. As cars got faster, people wanted to know exactly *how* much over 149 they could go. Hence the introduction of W (168 mph) and Y (186 mph) tires, both of which are also Z-rated.

And to get to 155 in 4th, you've got to be spinning the engine at 7600 rpm, or have some insanely large tires. (you are running 20s though, aren't you, so I guess it's not out of the question!)

The car is geared to hit 143 in 4th at 7k rpm, on the stock tire size, and I'm pretty sure that's something that doesn't vary from car to car.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc
I have a GPS unit that says I have gone faster than 155. How wrong are GPS units?
Z rated tires are rated at 168
Y rated tires are rated at 189

The gearing of said corvette would be the same no matter where you buy it. Think GM will custom make a set of gears for 1 state, I doubt it.

An FYI while on the dyno my car hit 155 in 4th gear..
First of all, for the corvette thing it wasnt supposed to be a REAL thing, it was a "it would be funny if" thing.... No **** they wouldnt change the gears for one state.....

Second, You are modified and I said NOTHING about modified cars. I said Stock cars with STOCK PCMs. And GPS units are not 100% correct. If they were, they wouldnt say that they are only accurate within 3 meters.

Third, I didnt say that Z rated was exactly 189, I said it was somewhere around there. My argument was that cars are limited to the rating of their tires. Why do you think most cars are limited at 107?

Fourth, nobody said anything about how fast a car can go on a dyno. That information is useless in this argument.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
WOW 10 seconds to hit 155? I had no Idea your car was running 9's LOL

it probably took you more like 30-35 seconds :-)

If u read his post a little more clearly, it was 10-15 seconds to get from 150 to 155.... not to 155
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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I've hit only 145 with just an exhaust. It would not go any faster than that. I was only around the low 5000 rpm range. But let me tell you, I will never do taht again. That's a little on the fast side for me.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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chipmonk212121 just keep digging your hole buddy.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chipmonk212121
Fourth, nobody said anything about how fast a car can go on a dyno. That information is useless in this argument.
actually not really, if he says he went 155mph in 4th on a dyno it means that there was no govenor limiting him to 140mph...
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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actually not really, if he says he went 155mph in 4th on a dyno it means that there was no govenor limiting him to 140mph...
i never said anything about a govenor limiting anyone to 140. and he wasnt stock anyway. The cars gearing alone with the STOCK PCM limiting it at 6500 wont go 155.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverBalt
If u read his post a little more clearly, it was 10-15 seconds to get from 150 to 155.... not to 155
ya someone already told me that. I though he said 10-15 seconds to go 0-155.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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Doc, while you're usually right about a lot of things, Z-rated tires are actually 149+. When they first hit the market, they were thought to be as fast a tire as anyone would ever need. As cars got faster, people wanted to know exactly *how* much over 149 they could go. Hence the introduction of W (168 mph) and Y (186 mph) tires, both of which are also Z-rated.

And to get to 155 in 4th, you've got to be spinning the engine at 7600 rpm, or have some insanely large tires. (you are running 20s though, aren't you, so I guess it's not out of the question!)

The car is geared to hit 143 in 4th at 7k rpm, on the stock tire size, and I'm pretty sure that's something that doesn't vary from car to car.
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I actually had the 20's on when it went to 155 in 4th and the speed came off the dyno not the speedo.

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chipmonk212121 just keep digging your hole buddy.
no kidding, he just gave a excuses rather than owning up about his post...
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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**** it, Im just gonna stop arguing. If I dont stop, nobody else will..... I know im not gonna say im wrong and neither will anyone else. Its a free country, you can believe what you want and I can believe what I want.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Look, with all that has been said in this thread can anyone tell me why my car will only do 140mph stock and modified with a Injen CAI? The CAI made very little differance in 1st and 2nd, but car does pull harder in 3rd and 4th. Still will not go faster than 140mph though. Did everycar come with 4.08 gears from factory, cause mabey that is why? I'm not really sure. Not try to star any problems with people, just really want to know why car will only do 140mph. I've seen the pics of others speedo's showing over 150mph, just wonder why my car is differant?
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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Look, with all that has been said in this thread can anyone tell me why my car will only do 140mph stock and modified with a Injen CAI? The CAI made very little differance in 1st and 2nd, but car does pull harder in 3rd and 4th. Still will not go faster than 140mph though. Did everycar come with 4.08 gears from factory, cause mabey that is why? I'm not really sure. Not try to star any problems with people, just really want to know why car will only do 140mph. I've seen the pics of others speedo's showing over 150mph, just wonder why my car is differant?
Like they said before your elevation has thinner air and is robbing your horsepower.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Look, with all that has been said in this thread can anyone tell me why my car will only do 140mph stock and modified with a Injen CAI? The CAI made very little differance in 1st and 2nd, but car does pull harder in 3rd and 4th. Still will not go faster than 140mph though. Did everycar come with 4.08 gears from factory, cause mabey that is why? I'm not really sure. Not try to star any problems with people, just really want to know why car will only do 140mph. I've seen the pics of others speedo's showing over 150mph, just wonder why my car is differant?
Take a trip to Phoenix this winter and find an open road, and I guarantee you'll go faster than 140.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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But even with the thinner air the CAI incresed my HP and gave me better airflow, my car still tops our at 140mph. I could be wrong, but shouldnt the CAI at least increased my top speed 2 or 3mph?
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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But even with the thinner air the CAI incresed my HP and gave me better airflow, my car still tops our at 140mph. I could be wrong, but shouldnt the CAI at least increased my top speed 2 or 3mph?
the thinner air robs more HP that your Injen gains. Example. (not real numbers)
if your car has 205 stock and that thinner air robs 15hp while your injen gains 5. you are still at 195. Im sure someone else can explain it more in depth. but its something along the lines of that.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Will do, I've driven from Vegas to Phoenix many times, but not in my new Cobalt. It would be fun, long desert straght aways, and lots of mountain curves. I have freinds who live there. It would be fun to get some pics of my car on the hoover dam. Probaly actully be going this fall though. Hope car will hit 140mph by then, but I will let you know. Probally be the last trip in the Cobalt though, Going to trade it in on the Soltice GXP next Spring.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HViper
Will do, I've driven from Vegas to Phoenix many times, but not in my new Cobalt. It would be fun, long desert straght aways, and lots of mountain curves. I have freinds who live there. It would be fun to get some pics of my car on the hoover dam. Probaly actully be going this fall though. Hope car will hit 140mph by then, but I will let you know. Probally be the last trip in the Cobalt though, Going to trade it in on the Soltice GXP next Spring.
Nice! Getting that car over 140 shouldn't be an issue at all. Either way, post up when you make your trip. It'll give us Phoenix guys a reason to go do something.
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