Please, for the sake of sanity, DROP THE SRT vs SS/SC BATTLE! This is old, very old. And off topic as far as I'm concerned. Maybe in 4 years when the cobalt has a large supporting aftermarket we can debate which one has the better after market. This is like comparing a tried and true technique to a new idea. No one knows how the cobalt will fair in the mod world.

 

Believe me, I don't like arguing about carA vs carB. Just had to point out that he was making a big, and might I say ignorant, assumption by his statement.

 

I bought a 2006 SS/SC in arrival blue w/ blue inserts and i love it...this car is by far the best vehicle ive own next to my WS6. SRTurbo, I like the srt-4, It comes with more HP than our cars do but a few of the things that kept me from buying it was the fact that its a 4 door, i didnt like the ride or the chassis, I LOVE the look of the SS stock....HOT.. most importantly though, i can get a GM employee discount (which knocked off a ton of $ off the sticker). Im excited to see what kind of aftermarket products this new car will be able to have...and i already plan on emptying my wallet as the market increases ....SRTurbo...are u seriously looking into trading ur car in to get a cobalt?

 

Why wouldnt his clutch last 5k?

 

I didn't direct that at you or any member.....Just in general. All SRT threads on this forum turn to my dad can beat your dad arguments.

 

You've never driven an SRT-4 and you are an expert?

Well I've driven both so I'll tell you what I think.

1) The Cobalt feels more refined, I agree. My SRT-4 is just over 2 years ago and is free of squeeks and rattles. Everything is still in good order and works great.

2) The interior in the Cobalt is nicer, it better be, it's a brand new platform. I hate the seats, they look good but I was sliding around in them.

3) Regarding the 6000 PRM redline, get your mom to buy you a book on engine design. Read up on long stroke motors and piston speed. This will answer your questions. Our engine does exactly what it was designed to do.

4) I like having 4 doors.

I like the Cobalt, but the only way I'd buy one is as a commuter, throw Stage 2 on it and leave it. I have the SRT-4 because it does everything I want it to do and has more potential without spending a lot of cash.

 

Potential is realitive to wallet size.

However, if I had the money to buy a second car, I'd get an SRT4.

Especially since they are being discontinued. It would make a cool collector's item.

 

As I said, the car is brand new and there are LITTLE mods available for it, so obviously the SRT4's aftermarket is better. Lemme ask u this though, HOW MANY SRT4'S DO U KNOW WITH A MERE 344HP THAT CAN TAKE ON AN 801HP NISSAN SKYLINE? ( NOT TO MENTION THE SS/SC HAS BEEN OUT FOR LESS THAN A YEAR, AND THE SS/SC IN THE RACE WASNT MODDED THAT SUBSTANTIALLY ). If u can answer me this question, Ill give the SRT4 more credit, until then, Im going to keep my opinion about the Cobalt SS/SC.

 

That not exactly a fair question IMO.

No one can predict how the srt4 would rank if it had the same opportunity the Cobalt was given

Especially considering the current aftermarket support for the SRT4.

 

how the hell did this thread end up like this????

 

They all do

 

Whoa! The SS/SC in the race wasn't modded that substantially? I watched the entire season of Street Tuner Challenge where this car was built. They tore that thing down to the frame and then some. It's not a modded street car - quite simply it's a race car.

Now obviously I'm a huge SS/SC fan. I think we are going to do incredible things once Stage II and other mods are out. But lets be realistic here.

 

How many built and fully stripped SRT4's (with Dodge's full backing) ever had the the opportunity to go up against those vehicles? Can you answer me this question?
It's funny how you're basing your whole argument on that race. Did you know that:
a. The SS was driven by a professional driver vs the average schmoe driving the Skyline? I don't care if you have 1000hp, if you can't drive your car (in a track) you aint getting no where. I would like to see two average shmoes drive the SS and Skyline and see who comes out on top.
b. ENTIRE GM performance division backed the project. When you have a factory team versus two smaller tuning shops who do you think has the advantage. Hate to tell you this but hp isn't everything when it comes to the track.
c. Skyline had mechanical failures (bad wheel bearing), not allowing them a full day of racing.

 

Thank you ballerSS. It's refreshing to meet someone who's in touch with reality.

 

Okay so the driving matters, but man how could anyone put a poor driver behind the wheel of a machine that lays down 800 horses? My guess is that they didn't. A vehicle with much less power taking the checkered flag is impressive any way you look at it. Thumbs up to the SS/SC . Now only if the dealerships around here would give me my price!

 

The guy driving the Skyline was very familiar with the track, but had never driven a Right sided Vehicle. The Cobalt team was much better prepared.

 

Power aint everything at the track. This wasn't a drag race. I'd rather take a 400hp very balanced race car over a 1000hp beast at the track. Not trying to discredit the SS but I wouldn't make generalizations based on the outcome of ONE encounter.

 

Either way, u can take ALL THOSE MODS the srt4 has, and they problly wont touch what that Cobalt did with half the mods. Thats the point Ive been trying to make, it wasnt modded that substantially under the hood and it STILL WON ( whooptie doo a mere 344hp, AN SVT COBRA HAS 390 HP BASE. YOURE TELLING ME A COBRA WOULD BE EQUAL TO OR FASTER THAN THIS COBALT? BESIDES THAT A BASE SKYLINE IS FAST AS HELL TO BEGIN WITH, AND ITS HP IS UNDER 300. THAT WAS ALMOST A 3X INCREASE IN POWER!!! I DONT CARE HOW BAD IT WAS IN TWISTIES, IN THE STRAIGHT AWAY IT SHOULD OF HAD A MASSIVELY SUBSTANTIAL EDGE, NO QUESTIONS ASKED). As for the weight reduction, I dont see how those are considered substantial "mods". Im sure the nissan was reduced in weight aswell and was probably close to the same weight as the ss/sc. Theyre a race cars, theyre both gonna be light weight.

 

That Cobalt was perfectly executed race car with possibly one the most brilliant road racers in the land , and the Skyline had problems and a driver who had never driven a righthand drive car . Its not apples to apples like you would suggest . Yea yea yea , a race is a race and the Cobalt SS won , but you have to look at the realities of the conditions before you boast to greatly Go over to streetfire and see some real video's , with some REAL u and me drivers and see what kinda cars the modded SRT4's are beating . The SRT4 doesnt have not even one thing to prove to anyone .

 

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