wait so can we actualy go and order these air intake now or are they not available yet?

 

$325 for an intake? No thanks.. I'd rather do a custom set up for a fraction of the cost.

 

Yes you can order now but it will go on backorder and
ship when stock is available.

 

gmgoodwrench and gmpartsdirect doesn't list the air intake. Where are you guys fining this pricing from. Also if I installed this intake with my gm performance exhaust will that make a huge differences in performance? Also will the intake make my exhaust sound louder?

 

search part# 17800653 @ http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/

 

ok guys,
halfcents has stated a MIAN thread on this!
L61 Intake Info Thread

 

A little off topic from what you guys are discussing but i have a question of my own...
will the 2.2L ecotec supercharger they have listed here work for the 05 cobalt, it says it works for the 02-05 2.2L cavalier...

http://www.gm.com/company/gmtunersou...chevrolet.htm#

 

No it will not. Different computers.

 

Whats part description is this for? Is it the intake or what?

 

Yeah... GM redesigned the intake so you put in your interior. It matches your door insert color. Not to mention it adds 25 more whp because it sucks the cold air in from your air conditioned interior.






*runs to jump off the nearest tall building*

 

So this intake still connects to the stock silencer box that goes near the front bumper? If it's still using the stock silencer box will this even add any horsepower or give a type of sound what so ever?

 

I've yet to see it in person... but from what I understand it still connects to the stock silencer box. It will add very little HP, but a regular CAI doesn't really add much anyway. You're eliminating some of the restriction with a new filter and bigger pipe past the silencer box. There probably will be some difference in sound... but not very noticable.

 

From what I see of the pictures, and viewing the CAI for the Solstice in person, it will NOT use the stock silencer box what-so-ever. It will have an enclosure around the flter that will more than likely use the intake tube that runs from the fender to the bottom of the existing air box, but have a different enclosure around the filter. It will be similar in design to the Injen SRI, but have an enclosure around the filter that has a rubber seal on the top lip of the box that seals to the bottom of the hood. When the hood is open, the filter will be exposed. The hood will make up the top of the air box enclosure. It should be sealed from the engine compartment without being placed in the fenderwell. It is very similar to what K&N makes for Camaro's & Mustangs. Hell, wouldn't be surprised if GMPP outsourced it to K&N for design and manufacturing....

FTR...A CAI only needs to be sealed from heat and receive cold air from an outside source to be classified as such. The Injen CAI setup that takes air from the fenderwell qualifies in a sense, but more closely resembles a "fenderwell intake" than a CAI. CAI's offer much more protection from getting debris and water into the filter element than a fenderwell mounted filter. However, the Injen SRI would more closely resemble an "open cone" setup, since it will be taking hot air from the engine bay, not cold air from outside the engine bay.

 

Except for two things:

1) The tubing that runs from the fenderwell up into the stock filter enclosure is part of the stock silencer box. The stock silencer sits in the fenderwell. GM's CAI basically replaces the stock filter, and tubing from the filter to the TB.

2) Fenderwell intake is a term commonly used to refer to a type of CAI. Fenderwell only refers to the placement of the intake... not the type of intake. Injen's CAI is a true Cold Air Intake. Anything that is taking in fresh air from outside of the engine bay could be considered a CAI.

 

Tomato, tomato. I guess the community I come from makes a distinct difference between a FWI and a CAI. You are correct, they are of the same "family".

Injen's SRI is not a CAI, but if you use the extension pipe that moves the filter into the fenderwell, it would be considered a CAI.

You mean to tell me that there is MORE plastic ducting/boxes in the fender as well? Jeez. I was under the impression (apparently wrongly) that the intake tube that runs into the bottom of the stock airbox was not connected into another box in the fender. I guess it is seperated from the bottom of the stock air box, installed into the bottom of the new open-topped air box in the CAI kit, but nothing is replaced that exists in the fender, right?

So, the kit is a new airbox, filter, tubing, and rubber grommet that attaches to the throttle body. I suppose you could gut the stock silencer in the fender or remove it altogether.

I have only gone so far as to drop a K&N replacement filter for now, but would be willing to try this setup out if it won't trigger any SES lights...

 

Yeah you pretty much nailed it. It's just a replacement of the stock airbox and half of the piping. You still have the silencer in the fenderwell. You could just take that out... then you'd be running a SRI that maybe pulls in some air from down in the fenderwell. I don't remember where the stock airbox and the silencer split.

You could just drop in a K&N filter. Probably would give you almost as much as this GM intake with the silencer box removed.

 

My plans are simple for this car (since it is a daily driver and reliability is priority #1), help it breathe a little better, maybe pick up 15-20hp in the process. I am planning a Corsa exhaust, GMPP manifold, and some sort of SRI or CAI. I am definately going to have to do something about the brakes, since they have been redone 3X & I only have 12,600 miles (but that is a whole other story). I probably will add a little suspension tuning, and some appearance but that is it. I already have another "toy" to play with that empties my bank account on a regular basis. I figure if I can reach the 200 horsepower (at the crank), this car will be a lot more fun to drive. This might involve a call to Chris White to finalize the deal, but I have known Chris for some 7 years and trust him with the tune.

The real question is will the GMPP be better or worse (as far as quality, gains, reliability) than the Injen SRI that I was already set to buy....stay tuned.

 

You might want to reconsider the GMPP manifold. I've heard that there isn't much gain there. CTI supposedly has a nice header and downpipe combo.

My brakes are junk too. 9400 miles on my car and it NEEDS to go into the dealer to have my rotors looked at. I'm considering just buying slotted and drilled rotors if the dealer doesn't want to replace these.

 

I would consider a header, but warranty is my primary concern. I have a few tricks up my sleeve for the manifold that might add a little more umph to the gains, and still be cheaper than a header. Still, not very impressed with the headers offered for our cars either. ZZP might be offering 2 more headers of differing style that peak my curiousity, but that is it. I plan to keep the stock downpipe and cat for a while longer too. It is not an emissions thing, since they don't test in Florida.

I really don't want to spend an arm and a leg for exhaust work. I have about $3k in exhaust work on my other car (silver-ceramic coated TOG headers-the good ones before TOG fubarred all of their products, 3" RT downpipe/cat, SLP cat back, Jet-Hot coating on the cat-back, and a few other goodies...things are extremely expensive for the W-body market), I don't need an elaborate exhaust setup on my DD.

I don't need it to sound like a pissed off weed wacker either.

I think that the Corsa Touring/GMPP Manifold and eventually a downpipe/cat combo will work just fine. As long as it is breathing and sounding better, it will be fine with me.

I am afraid if you open up the exhaust too much on a N/A car, you will lose any bottom end torque the car might have (especially a four banger). As absurd as it might sound, you need a little backpressure to be present.

On an F/I car, it is the opposite. Bottom end torque is not a problem there...at least it isn't on my other car. I could stand to lose some bottom end for better launch ability. It will lite them up at anything below 30mph from a roll as it is, standing starts are absurd -even with the high flowing exhaust work I have done!

200 chp is just an mark I like to achieve. If I can, I will. If I don't, so be it.

 

200 at the crank is not unreasonable for our cars. I think you can pull it off. If you do go with the GM manifold, let me know how it works for you. I'm not considering any further exhaust work for now. I'm going turbo in a few months here and I'll need custom exhaust components anyway.... but I'd still like to see what it can do.